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Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

Does being anti-same sex marriage make one Pro-Family?


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I have noticed that Senator Pat Roberts is billing himself in adds here in the Kansas City area as a Pro-Family Candidate because of his position against same sex marriage. Do you think that being anti-same sex marriage makes one pro-family?
 
If anything, it makes you anti-family.
 
I have noticed that Senator Pat Roberts is billing himself in adds here in the Kansas City area as a Pro-Family Candidate because of his position against same sex marriage. Do you think that being anti-same sex marriage makes one pro-family?
While he may be portraying himself that way, I personally do not equate the two positions. One may or may not hold both beliefs, of course.
 
pro-family is just rebranding so it sounds less mean. if sen. roberts we're pro-family he would be pro-less-children-being-orphans
 
Anti-marriage is pro-family? Nonsense.
 
Absolutely not . The anti-SSM types are the anti-family side. You want to show me you're pro-family? Let me marry my girlfriend, adopt a child, and start one. Until then...you cannot claim to be "pro-family." Sorry.
 
In my opinion, if one is pro-family, then you are in favor of strong, stable, and loving families. If you are a politician that is pro-family, then you should support policies that encourage the formation of strong and stable families. I don't see how being anti-same sex marriage could be pro-family in any way.
 
In my opinion, if one is pro-family, then you are in favor of strong, stable, and loving families. If you are a politician that is pro-family, then you should support policies that encourage the formation of strong and stable families. I don't see how being anti-same sex marriage could be pro-family in any way.

I don't see how being married is a requirement to be a strong, stable and loving family, gay or otherwise.
 
I have noticed that Senator Pat Roberts is billing himself in adds here in the Kansas City area as a Pro-Family Candidate because of his position against same sex marriage. Do you think that being anti-same sex marriage makes one pro-family?

Being pro-family would certainly include opposing homosexual relationships.

Of course opposing unmarried cohabitation, spousal abandonment, child abuse, abortion, IVF, IUI, contraception, and the like is also pro-family.
 
Marriage between a man and a woman is the most essential foundation of family.

One cannot honestly claim to be “pro-family”, while also being in favor of redefining “marriage” to include such a sick mockery as “same sex marriage”. This effort to redefine and undermine marriage is a direct attack on the family.
 
Anti-marriage is pro-family? Nonsense.

Being in favor of “same sex marriage” is not being in favor of marriage. It is, in fact, being on the side that directly seeks to attack and undermine true marriage. This is an unalterably anti-marriage and anti-family position, no matter how anyone might try to spin it otherwise.

One cannot honestly claim to be “pro-family” while supporting positions that directly attack and undermine true marriage and family.
 
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I have noticed that Senator Pat Roberts is billing himself in adds here in the Kansas City area as a Pro-Family Candidate because of his position against same sex marriage.
Do you think that being anti-same sex marriage makes one pro-family?[
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Anyone who is anti-same sex marriage is trying to deny others the same rights that he/she has.

That will not fly in the USA.

Wait and see.
 
family is family, it is that simple. Why refuse 2 gays or 2 lesbians from enjoying that same bliss of family life (if they want too). Being against gay-marriage shows you do not support families but only your views on what a family should be.
 
family is family, it is that simple. Why refuse 2 gays or 2 lesbians from enjoying that same bliss of family life (if they want too). Being against gay-marriage shows you do not support families but only your views on what a family should be.

Family is what it is. marriage is what it is.

Marriage, by definition, always has and always will be between a man and a woman. Period.

A sick mockery of a “marriage”, between two homosexuals, never has been, never will be, and can never be in any way comparable to a genuine marriage. That's just not what marriage is. To insist that genuine marriage be treated as nothing more than an equivalent to this sick mockery thereof is to degrade and attack marriage itself.

And to insists that a “family” can be built on a sick mockery, that is comparable to a genuine family built on a genuine marriage, is to attack family as well.

You cannot honestly claim to be “pro-marriage” nor “pro-family”, if you support degrading these institutions to the level of the mockeries that the sick, immoral perverts want to impose on society.
 
1.)Being in favor of “same sex marriage” is not being in favor of marriage.
2.) It is, in fact, being on the side that directly seeks to attack and undermine true marriage.
3.) This is an unalterably anti-marriage and anti-family position, no matter how anyone might try to spin it otherwise.

One cannot honestly claim to be “pro-family” while supporting positions that directly attack and undermine true marriage and family.
1.) unsupportable opinion that definitions disagree with
2.) as soon as you say "fact" your statement is in fact 100% wrong.
3.) see #1

your statements can't be back-up or supported with anything other than your subjective opinions and they completely fail

Family | Define Family at Dictionary.com
noun, plural families.
1.
a basic social unit consisting of parents and their children, considered as a group, whether dwelling together or not:
the traditional family.
a social unit consisting of one or more adults together with the children they care for:
a single-parent family.
2.
the children of one person or one couple collectively:
We want a large family.
3.
the spouse and children of one person:
We're taking the family on vacation next week.
4.
any group of persons closely related by blood, as parents, children, uncles, aunts, and cousins:
to marry into a socially prominent family.
5.
all those persons considered as descendants of a common progenitor.
6.
Chiefly British. approved lineage, especially noble, titled, famous, or wealthy ancestry:
young men of family.
7.
a group of persons who form a household under one head, including parents, children, and servants.
8.
the staff, or body of assistants, of an official:
the office family.
9.
a group of related things or people:
the family of romantic poets; the halogen family of elements.
10.
a group of people who are generally not blood relations but who share common attitudes, interests, or goals and, frequently, live together:
Many hippie communes of the sixties regarded themselves as families.

you are welcome to have your unsupportable opinions and push your factually proven wrong statements as true of course but they don't matter to the actual issue of equal rights, reality and facts
 
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1.)Family is what it is. marriage is what it is.
2.) Marriage, by definition, always has and always will be between a man and a woman. Period.
3.) A sick mockery of a “marriage”, between two homosexuals, never has been, never will be, and can never be in any way comparable to a genuine marriage.
4.) That's just not what marriage is.
5.) To insist that genuine marriage be treated as nothing more than an equivalent to this sick mockery thereof is to degrade and attack marriage itself.
6.) And to insists that a “family” can be built on a sick mockery, that is comparable to a genuine family built on a genuine marriage, is to attack family as well.
7.) You cannot honestly claim to be “pro-marriage” nor “pro-family”, if you support degrading these institutions to the level of the mockeries that the sick, immoral perverts want to impose on society.

1.) false family can exist without marriage, fact
2.) false it isnt now and hasnt been in the past, fact
3.) false where equal rights exist it already is legal marriage, fact
4.) false, law, rights and definitions prove your statement wrong, if you disagree prove otherwise
5.) equal rights isnt attack on legal marriage/family what so ever
6.) see #4 and #5
7.) See #4 and #5

thanks for your opinions
 
Being in favor of “same sex marriage” is not being in favor of marriage. It is, in fact, being on the side that directly seeks to attack and undermine true marriage. This is an unalterably anti-marriage and anti-family position, no matter how anyone might try to spin it otherwise.

One cannot honestly claim to be “pro-family” while supporting positions that directly attack and undermine true marriage and family.

Your idea of marriage is quite obviously a failure. Heterosexuals are the biggest threat to families, with their ridiculously high divorce rates, amount of children born out of wedlock, and failure at instilling morals into children.
 
Marriage between a man and a woman is the most essential foundation of family.

And allowing a subset of less than 5% of the total population to get "married" could not possibly change that in any way.

A few gay people here and there getting married has no effect on straight marriage or straight families.

To suggest otherwise is simple ignorance.
 
Ok, let's make this quick.

Almost all study done on this topic has shown us that, all things equal, "gay" marriages (as a framework for raising children) show no significant difference when compared with "straight" marriages, and in numerous categories the children actually do better.

I'm not going to bother posting any links to back this up, because at this point facts such as these should be about as well known as the fact that having mixed-race parents doesn't inherently cause any kind of significant problems raising healthy children.
 
This is an unalterably anti-marriage and anti-family position, no matter how anyone might try to spin it otherwise.

One cannot honestly claim to be “pro-family” while supporting positions that directly attack and undermine true marriage and family.

That's just 100% lies on every level.
 
I have noticed that Senator Pat Roberts is billing himself in adds here in the Kansas City area as a Pro-Family Candidate because of his position against same sex marriage. Do you think that being anti-same sex marriage makes one pro-family?

Only to the ignorant and/or bigoted.
 
There's no need. The links have been posted a million times. Use google if you must.

It's obvious and simple.

What links? What evidence supports purposely denying a child a proper upbringing?
 
What links? What evidence supports purposely denying a child a proper upbringing?

what does this have to do with equal rights/gay marriage?
seems you have gone off topic
 
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