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    Re: Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Personally, no I don't think that.

    But do I understand the reasoning behind such a claim and think that it's logically consistent given the thought process of those making the statement? Yes.

    Part of why some people opposed "same sex marriage" is a belief that "marriage" as a government entity should be there in part to encourage the "traditional family unit" of a mother, father, and children. Often, these people feel that a non-traditional unit is either worse, or at the least less ideal, and thus shouldn't necessarily be encouraged via governmental recognition. If a person holds such a view then it makes logical sense to claim to be "pro-family" by being "anti-same sex marriage" because, based on their ideological thinking, they are in favor of promoting the "traditional family unit" via the government as opposed to encouraging marriage that is less likely to product a family unit, let alone a "traditional" one.

    Now, I don't really think a homosexual couple adopting is inherently worse nor do I think the primary purpose of marriage as a government recognized entity should be to promote having children...so I disagree in general with that logic. But I can understand the claim and why he'd make it based on his likely view points regarding the issues.
    Being you are not one of them I guess it might make it difficult to guess but in your opinion what do you think this "encouragement and recognition" is they speak of?
    -how is it different than any other contract that the government simply legally protects
    -why would civil unions/domestic partnerships (some anti marriage support these things) not have this "encouragement and recognition" that they speak of?
    -and why would it change at all for those not interested in others subjective versions of marriage? Meaning if a person is gay the chances of them participating in that is small already.

    again this is not your stance so I dont know what your guess may be if you have any at all so others please feel free if you have these views to state what you think this "encouragement and recognition" because i currently dont see it any different than anything else. WHat am I missing?
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    Re: Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Your idea of marriage is quite obviously a failure. Heterosexuals are the biggest threat to families, with their ridiculously high divorce rates, amount of children born out of wedlock, and failure at instilling morals into children.
    Are you under the impression that I approve any more of the high rates of divorce and illegitimacy than I do of homosexuality?

    These are all part of the very same evil, all leading to the very same set of social ills. You are right, of course, that a major part of the problem is a failure to teach proper moral values to our younger generations. The acceptance of homosexuality and other forms of sexual immorality and perversion are also symptoms of this same failure.

    We have devolved into a dysfunctional society where immorality is treated as equal to morality, indecency as equal to decency, evil as equal to good. Homosexuality, along with high rates of divorce and illegitimacy, and all the ills that follow these, are all the results of such a broken society.
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    Re: Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

    Tolerance and acceptance of divorce causes more damage to the family than gay marriage.

    Just because you think gay sex is strange and yucky doesn't mean that you have any values whatsoever.

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    Re: Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Tolerance and acceptance of divorce causes more damage to the family than gay marriage.

    Just because you think gay sex is strange and yucky doesn't mean that you have any values whatsoever.
    Arguing that one thing is destructive is not an argument in favor of something else which is also destructive.
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    Re: Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    “Same sex marriage” never has been, and never will be the same thing as genuine marriage.
    It's just marriage, hire could marriage not be marriage?

    We don't really call it "same sex marriage" it's just marriage. You call it that to say it's different.
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    Re: Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Family is what it is. marriage is what it is.

    Marriage, by definition, always has and always will be between a man and a woman. Period.

    A sick mockery of a “marriage”, between two homosexuals, never has been, never will be, and can never be in any way comparable to a genuine marriage. That's just not what marriage is. To insist that genuine marriage be treated as nothing more than an equivalent to this sick mockery thereof is to degrade and attack marriage itself.

    And to insists that a “family” can be built on a sick mockery, that is comparable to a genuine family built on a genuine marriage, is to attack family as well.

    You cannot honestly claim to be “pro-marriage” nor “pro-family”, if you support degrading these institutions to the level of the mockeries that the sick, immoral perverts want to impose on society.
    No, that is your opinion that it should be between a man and a woman, society can after some enlightenment decide to chance those parameters. Period.

    A marriage between 2 gays/lesbians is not a mockery but a partnership just like most marriages.

    And families can be both gay and straight. You may think it is a sick mockery but that is just backward thinking IMHO, we no longer live in the stone age time of old world thinking.
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    Re: Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Arguing that one thing is destructive is not an argument in favor of something else which is also destructive.
    Marriage isn't destructive to marriage.

    Keeping in mind marriage of a same sex couple is just marriage.

    Many of you folks have claimed that I guess thinking people will just say "okay well in that case we don't want to be married." Bob, it's a lie, marriage doesn't hurt marriage. If it cheapens your marriage that two people of the same sex get married, your marriage would be the "sick mockery."
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    Re: Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    No, that is your opinion that it should be between a man and a woman, society can after some enlightenment decide to chance those parameters. Period.

    A marriage between 2 gays/lesbians is not a mockery but a partnership just like most marriages.

    And families can be both gay and straight. You may think it is a sick mockery but that is just backward thinking IMHO, we no longer live in the stone age time of old world thinking.
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    Re: Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Arguing that one thing is destructive is not an argument in favor of something else which is also destructive.
    Look at the question in the OP. You can hate same sex marriage and love divorce. That means I would answer, "no" to the question in the OP and I did.

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    Re: Is being anti-same sex marriage Pro-Family?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Some folks would like us to return though.
    Yes, but it is our duty to not let that happen.
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