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    Re: Is the West at war with Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That almost makes it sound like the KKK is okay.
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    The systems that ensure freedom and liberty are breaking down and fundamentalism is growing. Nobody is righteous anymore.


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    Re: Is the West at war with Islam?

    The West is at war with some terrorist Muslims but it's not at war with Islam.

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    Re: Is the West at war with Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    When did they do that?


    Since the end of the U.S. Civil War.

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    Is the West at war with Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Seems like Britain may have a problem in a London suburb. If Britain has the will they can deal with it if they want and have the will. If they think the patrol has gone too far and if they are not citizens of the UK, they can deport them. There are also other ways.

    But I am still more worried about Washington Laws than Sharia Law.
    Be concerned about Washington launch a real law are not mutually exclusive event. You are more than capable of being concerned about both. And I do get that you would be more concerned about a law that directly affects you. But the topic of the thread is not Washington law.

    Really my thing is that we should be very leery of sharia law and those who practice. It is fundamentally against that which we believe in Western society. And seeing it expand to somewhere like London, The capital of eight Western democratic nation, that should be at the very least a little disturbing. (Talking specifically about sharia patrol).

    What comes to mind to me is the old adage what you tolerate today you accept tomorrow. Sometimes that is good, but other times you should consider that being tolerant of things because of the cultural relativity movement they get you more than you are willing to agree with.
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    Re: Is the West at war with Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Islam is a "hate organization"?
    I can already say this debate and thread is going to go nowhere because of ignorant, broad generalized statements like this.
    Exactly where did you expect it to go? Islam is a religion that condones murder. It cannot be denied unless, I suppose, one is a socialist.

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    Re: Is the West at war with Islam?

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    26% of 18-29 y.o. US Muslims believe suicide bombings can be justified.

    Extremism itself may be a fringe movement, but Islamism certainly is not. Worldwide, a vast majority of Muslims would actively want Sharia Law to become the law of the land, in the west this proportion is significantly lower, but it is still a massive proportion. It's time to stop the myth that Islamism is a tiny minority of Islam. The tenets of Islamism are not extreme interpretations of the Qur'an and hadiths, they are the standard interpretations.

    Now, this all said, the west has been prodding and poking the middle east for decades now. From re-establishing borders to overthrowing one of the most socially progressive and secular leaders the M.E. has ever had in Mossadegh, mostly in an attempt to keep oil cheap for us. I wouldn't be opposed to admitting we have been waging a covert war against the M.E. for almost half a century. You reap what you sow.
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    Re: Is the West at war with Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Is lynching somehow better than beheading?
    Has the KKK lynched anyone in the last 60 years? If so, you liberals kept re-electing a senator to congress year after year in Robert 'the grand Kleagle' Byrd, (D) WV.
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    Re: Is the West at war with Islam?

    I'd say the West has been at war with a lot of developing nations that happen to be Islamic. The West has imposed economic reforms (IMF), and political sanctions on countries which don't play ball with the larger system of commodities and trade. If they continue to not play ball? Military intervention. We saw it in Iran with the CIA (the Shah anyone?), the creation of Israel as a modern state, and the way in which we got into Syria and Libya.

    I think the difference between Islamic countries and non-islamic countries we have attacked is that the Islamics have actually fought back against some of our policies. However, they're not alone. Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Mexicans, Sub-Saharan Africans, Asians (China) have all retaliated against Western economic and military aggression at one point or another. There's also a difference that most of those countries didn't have centuries old political and filial relationships that united them under a single cause. I don't think the war we've waged has been necessarily with bad intentions, we've waged it for the same reason the west waged war against China, Africa and South America. When the West attacked China, there was the belief that Chinese people needed to be civilized and brought out of their serfdom kicking and screaming. There was also the less altruistic belief that their resources would benefit the world in general.

    I think the same thing is happening here. We have a section of the world which is morally, culturally and religiously retarded (in the actual sense of the word, not the insulting colloquialism) and they do need a bit of a push towards civilization. There is also the fact that a lot of these countries are sitting on a ****load of oil that would benefit a lot of people. I see nothing wrong with waging war against them for those reasons even if that makes me a bit of a neo-con.
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    Re: Is the West at war with Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    Has the KKK lynched anyone in the last 60 years? If so, you liberals kept re-electing a senator to congress year after year in Robert 'the grand Kleagle' Byrd, (D) WV.
    He finally had to die to get rid of him.
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    Re: Is the West at war with Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He finally had to die to get rid of him.
    He repented.
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