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What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

What should the US military do to Americans serving with ISIS

  • summarily execute them as spies

    Votes: 12 32.4%

  • send them to an American tribunal for adjudication

    Votes: 6 16.2%

  • treat them as prisoners of war despite not being in uniform

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • hand them over to the authorities of whatever nation they are captured in

    Votes: 10 27.0%

  • send them for "rendition" in an allied nation

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other-explain

    Votes: 7 18.9%
  • Total voters
    37
Dittohead not! said:
I believe treason carries the death penalty, no?
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it can. I don't think that clown who wants to be girl now who leaked information is in danger of being hung and is demanding we pay for him being "unhung"
 
TurtleDude said:
It think beheading American citizens is justification enough to have our military kill ISIS members
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So you are a champion of guilt by association?
 
TurtleDude said:
Sixty minutes is currently interviewing some London based scum bag who is a radical islamist who has been charged with recruiting for Isis and admitted to supporting jihad against the west. This report noted that one of the ISIS thugs who beheaded an unarmed western victim had a "london accent"

what should be done to americans captured by US or allied troops fighting against ISIS?
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Prosecute them in a military tribunal for TREASON... then execute them.
 
Declan said:
So you are a champion of guilt by association?
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what? if a group engages in terrorism they all are guilty. its like saying was it guilt by association for us to bomb Japanese citizens because other Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor
 
Declan said:
So you are a champion of guilt by association?
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Any US citizen found in combat against the US military with a group that has ipso facto declared war on the US, is guilty of treason, not by association, but by actions.

Edit: I would be proud to be the guy that pulls the trigger in their firing squad.
 
TurtleDude said:
it can. I don't think that clown who wants to be girl now who leaked information is in danger of being hung and is demanding we pay for him being "unhung"
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I think he'd have some difficulty being unhung.

Come to think of it, if he's a girl, he wouldn't be hung at all....

but that's another story.
 
TurtleDude said:
what? if a group engages in terrorism they all are guilty. its like saying was it guilt by association for us to bomb Japanese citizens because other Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor
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Then you are guilty by association by owning a gun because of the acts of other gun owners and should bear the punishment of having your guns taken away as well. Every US soldier should also be guilty of war crimes as punishment for the dumbass who rapes a local girl or gets hopped up on adrenaline and takes down a family. There is no end to your faulty logic in spite of that which you want to rationalize.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Any US citizen found in combat against the US military with a group that has ipso facto declared war on the US, is guilty of treason, not by association, but by actions.

Edit: I would be proud to be the guy that pulls the trigger in their firing squad.
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Good for you but ipso facto is meaningless in this context.
 
Declan said:
Then you are guilty by association by owning a gun because of the acts of other gun owners and should bear the punishment of having your guns taken away as well. Every US soldier should also be guilty of war crimes as punishment for the dumbass who rapes a local girl or gets hopped up on adrenaline and takes down a family. There is no end to your faulty logic in spite of that which you want to rationalize.
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that's your story and you want to stick to it? glad to see that the some members of the far left are supporting one of the most reactionary-anti freedom, anti female- collection of scumbags to ever exist. ISIS has declared war on the left. doesn't that mean any member of ISIS is fair game?
 
As others have said, try them for treason and then execute them.
 
Dittohead not! said:
They are fighting with the enemy, are they not? How is that anything but treason?
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They're fighting the governments of Syria and Iraq. Does that make them treasonous?
 
Grand Mal said:
They're fighting the governments of Syria and Iraq. Does that make them treasonous?
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those Americans and brits they beheaded were Syrian and Iraqi operatives
 
TurtleDude said:
those Americans and brits they beheaded were Syrian and Iraqi operatives
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Point. But are we talking about guilt by association? Because this is still an American citizen standing in front of you, handcuffed, captured in action in Iraq. Do you charge him with treason?
 
Grand Mal said:
Point. But are we talking about guilt by association? Because this is still an American citizen standing in front of you, handcuffed, captured in action in Iraq. Do you charge him with treason?
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Honestly, If I am a SF soldier or SEAL and operating in a semi autonomous state, I whack the guy right then and there unless there is some intelligence value to sending him off for rendition.
 
TurtleDude said:
Sixty minutes is currently interviewing some London based scum bag who is a radical islamist who has been charged with recruiting for Isis and admitted to supporting jihad against the west. This report noted that one of the ISIS thugs who beheaded an unarmed western victim had a "london accent"

what should be done to americans captured by US or allied troops fighting against ISIS?
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I think we should hand them over the authorities of what ever nation they are captured in. Because ISIS members are murdering and terrorizing innocent people in those countries, not ours. I think the locals in those countries would be very eager to try those animals in a court of law and then punish them accordingly.
 
TurtleDude said:
Honestly, If I am a SF soldier or SEAL and operating in a semi autonomous state, I whack the guy right then and there unless there is some intelligence value to sending him off for rendition.
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Exactly. You're not sending policemen.
Might get awkward if an American shows up in some kind of mass round-up, though.
 
TurtleDude said:
Sixty minutes is currently interviewing some London based scum bag who is a radical islamist who has been charged with recruiting for Isis and admitted to supporting jihad against the west. This report noted that one of the ISIS thugs who beheaded an unarmed western victim had a "london accent"

what should be done to americans captured by US or allied troops fighting against ISIS?
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The appropriate thing for the US govt. to do is withdraw all US troops from the ME and do nothing, because in the absence of any US intervention in the ME, ISIS is no threat to the US--their military objectives are confined to the ME. IF any American in the US then chooses to fight for or against ISIS following that withdrawal, he's welcome to do so.

Nevertheless, the warmongering mental vomit (i. e. "NUKE EM LETS GO BLOW EM UP AND SPEND US TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON TEN WARS THERE HELL YEAH!!!) from the right-wing and Libertarian-wannabes is typical, and expected.
 
TurtleDude said:
and what should the punishment be given serving with isis is pretty much proof beyond any doubt
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Treason's usually a capital offense isn't it?

I vote for handing them over to local authorities only because I'm not sure you can make the ironclad statement that ISIS is an enemy of ours.
It's easier and cleaner that way.
 
Van Basten said:
As others have said, try them for treason and then execute them.
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Sorry, "treason" is defined as fighting for enemies of the country, not enemies of the US govt. (which is what ISIS is).

Unfortunately, due to the voting of habits of the mentally deficient right, whose craniums have been permanently bolted up Limbaugh's anus, we have pols who can't tell the difference between the two.
 
I believe under a certain amount of different circumstances here's what should happen.



1) If they are American citizens only and are captured on the battlefield, they should be returned to the United States where they must face trial under military law for treason where should crimes against humanity/murder be determined to have been committed against civilians by that individual, the death penalty would be administered. Otherwise life in imprisonment.

1.5) They should already have had their passport nullified, I don't know what the lawful process would be for removing an Americans citizenship for fighting against the state or if that's even possible but should they attempt to return to the US of their own free will they should be detained immediately and 1) is followed.

2) If they are captured and hold dual citizenship with another nation, they should be turned over to that nations jurisdiction and their American citizenship subsequently revoked. If that nation will not have them than 1) is followed.
 
Permanently revoke their American citizenship. If they are caught in the US, send them to Syria or Iran or Saudi Arabia (payback to the Saudis), take their US passports and revoke their US citizenship. To me it would be a fate worse than death.
 
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