View Poll Results: What should the US military do to Americans serving with ISIS

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  • summarily execute them as spies

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  • send them to an American tribunal for adjudication

    9 18.75%
  • treat them as prisoners of war despite not being in uniform

    3 6.25%
  • hand them over to the authorities of whatever nation they are captured in

    12 25.00%
  • send them for "rendition" in an allied nation

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Thread: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

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    Re: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Sixty minutes is currently interviewing some London based scum bag who is a radical islamist who has been charged with recruiting for Isis and admitted to supporting jihad against the west. This report noted that one of the ISIS thugs who beheaded an unarmed western victim had a "london accent"

    what should be done to americans captured by US or allied troops fighting against ISIS?
    Is being a member illegal? Or is it the acts they might commit or have committed that are at issue? I would resist mere membership as being something we do any of those things on the list.

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    Re: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not sure that makes them a state or a nation. The Confederacy did much of that as well, but never really became a nation.
    they certainly were, to any set of standards you can set up. Which is why European nations sent them ambassadors. The US simply never recognized them, conquered them, and re-absorbed them.

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    Re: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    they certainly were, to any set of standards you can set up. Which is why European nations sent them ambassadors. The US simply never recognized them, conquered them, and re-absorbed them.
    No, there were still really part of the US. They had not won the distinction no matter who sent them ambassadors.

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    Re: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, there were still really part of the US. They had not won the distinction no matter who sent them ambassadors.
    please define what a "nation" is.

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    Re: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Sixty minutes is currently interviewing some London based scum bag who is a radical islamist who has been charged with recruiting for Isis and admitted to supporting jihad against the west. This report noted that one of the ISIS thugs who beheaded an unarmed western victim had a "london accent"

    what should be done to americans captured by US or allied troops fighting against ISIS?
    As ugly as democracy can be, everyone is entitled to a trial by a jury of his peers. The practice of summary execution and so forth that is being promoted here is why the Colonies went to war.

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    Re: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    As ugly as democracy can be, everyone is entitled to a trial by a jury of his peers. The practice of summary execution and so forth that is being promoted here is why the Colonies went to war.

    Shame on you
    shame on you for not understanding the realities of warfare. people captured not in uniform should be shot



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    Re: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    please define what a "nation" is.
    The word has a few definition, for our purposes, they must be able to hold their territories. Merely starting a revolutions isn't equal to having won and held those territories. I could declare my little parcel of land Booland, make money, trade outside Booland, have others want to be part of my intellectual paradise, even have a diplomat I have connections with visit, but the US government would likely end it pretty quick if I broke enough of their laws. You actually have to make the break, win the land, and hold it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The word has a few definition, for our purposes, they must be able to hold their territories.
    Oh. So any government (for example) currently losing a war ceases to be a state? Is Nigeria currently not a state? Mali? Algeria?

    Merely starting a revolutions isn't equal to having won and held those territories.
    So... we aren't a state? Or we are because of the passage of a particular amount of time? How much time?



    If you want to lean on sovereignty over violence (which is what you are loosely describing here), then you have to grant both ISIL and the Confederacy statehood.

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    Re: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    So you are a champion of guilt by association?
    any interesting comment given your views on how all gun owners should have their guns forcibly taken away from them because of the actions of a few legal gun owners who use their guns in a sinister fashion



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    Re: What should be done to Americans caught being ISIS members by US Forces

    Execute them on the spot as we should do with every other ISIS fighter.
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