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Thread: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

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    Re: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

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    You've never even been in a frat.
    Does the Marine Corps. count?

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    Re: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

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    Does the Marine Corps. count?
    Sorry, needs Greek letters. And it has to be a social frat, not a geek club.

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    Re: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    But it is not "artificially manufactured outrage about nothing." Women have a harder go at things like that then we do. Women and certainly young girls are victims when they are harassed, and honestly, it bothers me more when women get mistreated then when men do. I suppose I was just raised to treat women better than myself is all I'm saying.
    So was I. Make no mistake, I certainly don't condone catcalling.

    I simply disagree with the feminist perspective on it, and the ideological conclusions to which they allow it to lead them.

    I mean... Seriously, have you read the kind of nonsense S&M has been posting in this thread?

    Politely asking for or giving someone your number because you think they are attractive counts as "harassment?" Since when?
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    Re: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

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    So was I. Make no mistake, I certainly don't condone catcalling.

    I simply disagree with the feminist perspective on it, and the ideological conclusions to which they allow it to lead them.

    I mean... Seriously, have you read the kind of nonsense S&M has been posting in this thread?

    Politely asking for or giving someone your number counts as "harassment?" Since when?
    That's more of your militant feminism than your black and white feminism. Extreme positions like that can be casually dismissed as 'ignorant'.

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    Re: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sorry, needs Greek letters. And it has to be a social frat, not a geek club.
    Yeah, I can only imagine the mayhem that would have occurred had I joined a hardcore partying frat. We party hard and wake up the next not only in a lot of trouble but we have no clue how we got there. That's what my brothers did to me when I turned 21 in the Marines. I remember getting back to the sidewalk in-front of the barracks by taxi but the next thing I remember is waking up on the beach face down 4 hours late for morning formation.

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    Re: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

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    Yeah, I can only imagine the mayhem that would have occurred had I joined a hardcore partying frat. We party hard and wake up the next not only in a lot of trouble but we have no clue how we got there. That's what my brothers did to me when I turned 21 in the Marines. I remember getting back to the sidewalk in-front of the barracks by taxi but the next thing I remember is waking up on the beach face down 4 hours late for morning formation.
    In the army, I remember vomiting at 4am and running 10 miles at 6am. These days, a vomitous drunkenness requires days to recover.

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    Re: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    That's more of your militant feminism than your black and white feminism. Extreme positions like that can be casually dismissed as 'ignorant'.
    Perhaps. However, I think you will find that S&M's position on this matter is more prevalent in the minds of the feminist left than you might like to imagine.

    "Don't look at, talk to, or sexualize us in any way (unless we want you to, which you're just supposed to read our minds about, apparently) or else you're an evil sexist who's oppressing women through harassment" seems to be the overall gist of the message here.

    Frankly, even besides that, the other major issue is that they're not willing to address the root causes of the problem anyway; namely our horndog "anything goes" culture, and the depraved ideas about sex, courtship, and acceptable social behavior it tends to give a lot of young men.

    At the end of the day, the only aim of this nonsense is to rile up women, and try and make men who actually don't misbehave feel bad about their gender, so they'll both be more likely to support feminist ideological and legislative causes. The kinds of men who actually are guilty of this kind of misogynistic crap, quite frankly, don't give a damn.
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    Re: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    At the end of the day, the only aim of this nonsense is to rile up women, and try and make men who actually don't misbehave feel bad about their gender,
    Such a victim.

    I can accept the existence of sexism and not "feel bad about my gender"; I don't take everything personally like a psycho and my self worth is not based in group identity, so why would my gender make me feel bad?

    I can also accept that racism exists and not feel bad about my race. Again, because I don't take social things personally and my self worth is not based in group identity.

    Needing to deny sexism and racism to avoid feeling bad about ones sex and race is bonkers.
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    Re: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    In the army, I remember vomiting at 4am and running 10 miles at 6am. These days, a vomitous drunkenness requires days to recover.
    I'm still at the point where I'm good the next day

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    Re: Three Hours of Street Harassment in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Such a victim.

    I can accept the existence of sexism and not "feel bad about my gender", because i don't take everything personally like a psycho.
    Right, because you have somehow deluded yourself into thinking that you're not one of us, but somewhere off in space as your own "enlightened" category all unto yourself.

    We're all well aware, Eco.

    Misplaced notions of grandeur aside, the agenda at play here is no less intrinsically anti-male.
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