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  • Private citizens should be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests they want.

    32 94.12%
  • Private citizens should be allowed to buy only certain types bullet proof vests.

    0 0%
  • Private citizens should not be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests.

    0 0%
  • Private citizens should be allowed to wear bullet proof vests where ever they want.

    10 29.41%
  • Private citizens should be restricted at where they can wear bullet proof vests.

    0 0%
  • Private citizens should not be allowed to wear any kind of bullet proof vests.

    0 0%
  • other( if you or don't have some concerns regarding former criminals)

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    Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof vests?

    Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof vests?

    Private citizens should be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests they want.
    Private citizens should be allowed to buy only certain types bullet proof vests.
    Private citizens should not be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests.

    Private citizens should be allowed to wear bullet proof vests where ever they want.
    Private citizens should be restricted at where they can wear bullet proof vests.
    Private citizens should not be allowed to wear any kind of bullet proof vests.

    other( if you or don't have some concerns regarding former criminals)



    Private citizens should not be banned from buying any kind of body armor and should be allowed to wear it where ever they want to. The government should not have the right to make it easier to shoot you.



    Proposed bill limits sale of body armor to private citizens
    OKLAHOMA CITY - A local company's sales have skyrocketed in recent months. It's all because of a bill introduced by a Representative from California. The bill would prevent citizens from buying military grade body armor.

    Michael Blackmore is the owner of Armor Advantage, a body armor sales and manufacturing company based out of Purcell. When it comes to body armor there's almost nothing Blackmore doesn't know, but a new bill proposed by a Congressman from California has him stumped.

    "It started, probably good intentions, but I don't know that it's been thought all the way through," Blackmore said.

    The Responsible Body Armor Possession Act, proposed by Rep. Mike Honda, CA, would prevent private citizens from buying military grade body armor.

    "They state military grade, but they don't state where that line is, and that's a very slippery slope," Blackmore said.

    Blackmore says private citizens like security guards and even taxi drivers buy body armor all the time. He says he won't let his kids go to the shooting range unless they wear it, and he says many people where body armor when they go hunting.

    Blackmore says for him it's not a financial opposition he has to the bill. In fact, since it was announced Blackmore's body armor sales have skyrocketed 300%. For him, it's about principle.

    "I personally believe that politics should be kept out of this and the bottom line is, we are a free country and we have the right to choose," he said.
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    Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

    There is no right to body armor, only to infantry weaponry.

    The government is acting within its limits even if it decides to outright ban body armor.

    As for how I feel, I think it should only be regulated, not banned or anything.
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    Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post

    "I personally believe that politics should be kept out of this and the bottom line is, we are a free country and we have the right to choose," he said.
    Enough said right there.
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    Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

    It is unconscionable that the government would presume to regulate any article of clothing, including body armor, that affects absolutely nobody else in any way and puts nobody at any kind of risk.

    It is reasonable for the Homeland Security people to be interested if there is an unusual increase in sales of body armor, most especially in a particular area and by a particular group/class of people. And I would have no problem with a group buying an unusual concentration of body armor to come under increased scrutiny by those who are responsible for the common defense.
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    Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

    What a stupid bill.
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    Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    There is no right to body armor, only to infantry weaponry.
    The founders who were opposed to listing our rights in the Bill of Rights were afraid of people just like you, who would think that the government had the power to limit any right not explicitly stated.

    Our rights are what the government cannot do, not what the people can do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    The government is acting within its limits even if it decides to outright ban body armor.
    By what law? Which Government? If federal, how does the Supremacy clause give the feds the power to regulate/ban anything only being made and sold in the same state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    As for how I feel, I think it should only be regulated, not banned or anything.
    Regulated how?
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

    The Second Amendment clearly mentions body armor, so yes, it should be legal for anyone, anywhere.
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    Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof vests?

    Private citizens should be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests they want.
    Private citizens should be allowed to buy only certain types bullet proof vests.
    Private citizens should not be allowed to buy any kind of bullet proof vests.

    Private citizens should be allowed to wear bullet proof vests where ever they want.
    Private citizens should be restricted at where they can wear bullet proof vests.
    Private citizens should not be allowed to wear any kind of bullet proof vests.

    other( if you or don't have some concerns regarding former criminals)



    Private citizens should not be banned from buying any kind of body armor and should be allowed to wear it where ever they want to. The government should not have the right to make it easier to shoot you.



    Proposed bill limits sale of body armor to private citizens
    OKLAHOMA CITY - A local company's sales have skyrocketed in recent months. It's all because of a bill introduced by a Representative from California. The bill would prevent citizens from buying military grade body armor.

    Michael Blackmore is the owner of Armor Advantage, a body armor sales and manufacturing company based out of Purcell. When it comes to body armor there's almost nothing Blackmore doesn't know, but a new bill proposed by a Congressman from California has him stumped.

    "It started, probably good intentions, but I don't know that it's been thought all the way through," Blackmore said.

    The Responsible Body Armor Possession Act, proposed by Rep. Mike Honda, CA, would prevent private citizens from buying military grade body armor.

    "They state military grade, but they don't state where that line is, and that's a very slippery slope," Blackmore said.

    Blackmore says private citizens like security guards and even taxi drivers buy body armor all the time. He says he won't let his kids go to the shooting range unless they wear it, and he says many people where body armor when they go hunting.

    Blackmore says for him it's not a financial opposition he has to the bill. In fact, since it was announced Blackmore's body armor sales have skyrocketed 300%. For him, it's about principle.

    "I personally believe that politics should be kept out of this and the bottom line is, we are a free country and we have the right to choose," he said.
    Citizens should be allowed pretty much anything they want. Restrictions should require very high standards of poof of grave and direct danger to others.

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    Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

    There is absolutely no reason to outlaw this. It's an article of clothing that protects the user. Is the government worried they won't be able to kill someone? Really?
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    Re: Should governments limit or ban citizens form owning and or using bullet proof ve

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    There is no right to body armor, only to infantry weaponry.

    The government is acting within its limits even if it decides to outright ban body armor.

    As for how I feel, I think it should only be regulated, not banned or anything.
    I do not think we should allow our representatives to restrict our rights unless there is better reason than i have seen here.

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