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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Selkie View Post
    And has no oil
    So... why the Bay of Pigs?

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So... why the Bay of Pigs?
    Why Batista? The USA doesn't always dislike dictators..just "their" (communist) dictators.
    Fulgencio Batista y Zaldívar (Spanish: [fulˈxensjo βaˈtista i salˈdiβar]; January 16, 1901 – August 6, 1973) was the elected President of Cuba from 1940 to 1944, and dictator from 1952 to 1959, before being overthrown as a result of the Cuban Revolution.[1]

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Selkie View Post
    Why Batista? The USA doesn't always dislike dictators..just "their" (communist) dictators.
    Fulgencio Batista y Zaldívar (Spanish: [fulˈxensjo βaˈtista i salˈdiβar]; January 16, 1901 – August 6, 1973) was the elected President of Cuba from 1940 to 1944, and dictator from 1952 to 1959, before being overthrown as a result of the Cuban Revolution.[1]

    Let's not do the "the US must treat every country or dictator the same, regardless of context, and must do everything (perfectly) at the same time" crap. It's a miscarriage of logic and reason.

    I know well whom Batista was. It's ridiculous when people post basic history as some kind of revelation that changes a point. It's a pathetic attempt to move the goal posts and apologize for brutal dictatorship.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Nonsense. If the US embargoed every nation a tiny minority of the population wanted sanctioned, the world would be embargoed.

    Cuba remains embargoed because it continues to be ruled by a brutal totalitarian dictatorship that has, in the past, acted against the US in ways that threatened nuclear war.
    Its a tiny politically critical minority.

    The nuke thing was a half century ago. i think most of us are over it.
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Selkie View Post
    Why Batista? The USA doesn't always dislike dictators..just "their" (communist) dictators.
    Fulgencio Batista y Zaldívar (Spanish: [fulˈxensjo βaˈtista i salˈdiβar]; January 16, 1901 – August 6, 1973) was the elected President of Cuba from 1940 to 1944, and dictator from 1952 to 1959, before being overthrown as a result of the Cuban Revolution.[1]
    Well, he was only a dictator to its citizens not to big business.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Let's not do the "the US must treat every country or dictator the same, regardless of context, and must do everything (perfectly) at the same time" crap. It's a miscarriage of logic and reason.

    I know well whom Batista was. It's ridiculous when people post basic history as some kind of revelation that changes a point. It's a pathetic attempt to move the goal posts and apologize for brutal dictatorship.
    To the bold..Nonsense.. it's a desirable goal and possibly achievable if people would try to have a little consistency or at least boldly admit the application of double standards when serving self interest.
    It's a little ridiculous when people hold a grudge for 50 years and cripple the aspirations of a tiny nation just because they can.
    There's nothing ridiculous about posting a little basic FACTUAL history to attempt to put some honesty into a debate.
    Last edited by Selkie; 11-01-14 at 09:38 PM.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Its a tiny politically critical minority.
    BS.

    According to the 2005 census, the racial distributions are as follows; 60.1% White, 17% African-American, 2.1% Asian American, 1.4% others (American Indians), and the remaining 18% are Hispanics or Latino (of any ethnicity or national origin).
    Of the 18%, I'd guess 5% at most are Cuban. It might not even be a significant portion of Florida's population.

    The nuke thing was a half century ago. i think most of us are over it.
    It's the same brutal dictatorship, now run by his brother.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Selkie View Post
    It's a little ridiculous when people hold a grudge for 50 years and cripple the aspirations of a tiny nation just because they can.
    It's a brutal dictatorship run by the brother of the dictator that threatened the world with nuclear war.

    There's nothing ridiculous about posting a little basic FACTUAL history to attempt to put some honesty into a debate.
    Perhaps 5% of the population of Florida, less than .1% of US population, does not control foreign policy. Let's be real.

    Acting like people don't know whom Batista was is ridiculous and has no bearing whatsoever on the Castros being horrible dictators.


    Are you denying that Cuba is a brutal dictatorship?

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    BS.



    Of the 18%, I'd guess 5% at most are Cuban. It might not even be a significant portion of Florida's population.



    It's the same brutal dictatorship, now run by his brother.
    on a scale of 1 to 10 where does Castro fall in the brutal dictatorship stakes. Compared say to ..Pinochet?

    I've no problem with people blindly loathing everything communist but please try to have a little honesty about it rather than just rolling out the "brutal dictator" thing. Is there such a thing as a good dictator? or just "OUR" dictator any "THEIR" dictator?

    You talk about logic? so logically explain why the West supports some dictators and not others.
    Enquiring minds would like to know this? Self interest is perfectly legitimate so why hide actions behind propaganda?
    Last edited by Selkie; 11-01-14 at 09:47 PM.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    What, are Cuban exiles the new Jews? Controlling the world despite being a tiny minority!


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