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Thread: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Cuba is no threat....ending the embargo might even add more evidence to the idea that Castro's leadership is as much to blame as the embargo.
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    In the 1950's Cuba supplied close to 35% of the sugar cane to the world marker, the largest exporter in the world. In 1958 Cuba had 161 mills with a productive capacity of 8.2 million metric tons of sugar, and Cuban nationals were owners of 120 of the 161 sugar mills that produced 62% of the sugar.

    With the dismantling of 70% of the sugar mills, only 44 of 156 remain in operation. The island sugar industry continues its unstoppable course towards disappearance. Cuba simply has stopped being a sugar-producing country.

    In 2010 the island sugar production with 44 mills in operation was only 1.1 million MT with a population of 11.2.millions. In 1894, one year before the War of Independence, the island produced 1.05 million MT with a population of 1.7 million. One hundred and sixteen years later the Castroit regime produced basically the same amount. Castro I achieved the inconceivable, make a reality the phrase “without sugar there is no country.”
    Yet you make no mention that the collapse of world sugar prices happenned exactly when the USSr stopped it's trade with Cuba. Also the price of exporting sugar to China or Russia is very expensice for a tiny nation like cuba that is also under tade embargos and blockades.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuatara View Post
    Oh wow, another mislead and misinformed individual. Cuba traded their sugar to the USSr because the US put up a blockade and told other countries not to trade with them. They also established the Hems-Burton Act which stated you trade with Cuba, you don't trade with us. What other options did Cuba have?
    Oh wow. Do a little reading.

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    Certainly Cuba had the benefit of price supports from Russia. You are correct that the US tried to influence trade with Cuba and other nations.

    Personally, I think the embargo serves little purpose other than a bargaining chip which we could have used to influence Cuban domestic policy and to repatriate some of this countries most wanted fugitives. Of coarse Obama opposes the use of political influence and as in the talks with Iran first gave up the upper hand and weakening our position as much as possible. If someone was elected president on the platform of weakening America abroad, they could not have been as effective as Obama has been.
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    What the Castroit regime really wants are loans and lines of credit guaranteed by the U.S. Treasury Department, since it doesn’t have hard currency to pay the interests on the lines of credit for the importation of merchandise.

    These credits will not be paid and the American taxpayers will be the losers, the ones to pick up the debt, as it happens at the present time with the taxpayers of many countries. By 2012 the Castroit regime owe to The Paris Club $31 billion, $28 billion to Russia, 10 billion to China, 20 billion to Venezuela, 3.5 billion to Japan and another 7.5 billion to other countries, for a total staggering debt of $100 billion.

    Cuban economy’s bankruptcy is the sole responsibility of Castroit regime. It is due to the corruption and ineffectiveness of a military dictatorship that is against private property and free enterprise. Under this system the economy will continuous to deteriorate without any hope of improvement. These and no others are the real reasons of the problems.
    Did Castro pee in your cornflakes. I've knocked down every argument you put up and you still keep regurgitating propaganda. I think it's personal between you and Uncle Fidel.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    I know. I'm way too young and so were my parents. My dad was 3 and my mother wasn't even born when this mess started. This seems so much like the embargo was a political stunt that served a partisan purpose at one time. How has it survived all this time? There must be something more than just, "They're communist and we don't won't their communist cooties."

    Any older folks in here remember what this embargo was all about?
    ^^^^^^
    The post I was replying to

    A little thing called the Cuban Missile Crisis... When someone offers to allow your enemy to place their weapons at your front door, you end up with a bit of an attitude towards them.
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    The USSR placed those missiles there because the US had missiles in Turkey and Italy. Try and actually learn the history surrounding the events.
    I know the history surrounding the CMC, the fact that they were reacting to us doesn't negate our reasons for our actions. The fact is that we were trying to stop the Soviets from their highly aggressive imperialism in E. Europe, Latin America and Africa and they didn't like that, so they tried to bully us into letting them take over as many countries as they wanted to by threatening us with the missiles in Cuba.
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    ^^^^^^
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    I know the history surrounding the CMC, the fact that they were reacting to us doesn't negate our reasons for our actions. The fact is that we were trying to stop the Soviets from their highly aggressive imperialism in E. Europe, Latin America and Africa and they didn't like that, so they tried to bully us into letting them take over as many countries as they wanted to by threatening us with the missiles in Cuba.
    Sorry buy you are dead wrong. The Soviets would not have evn been involved if the US didn't demand every country to stop trading with Cuba. Al;so dead wrong about the highly agressive imperialism as the US was way heavier than it''s cold war counterpart. Look at the history of any Latin American nation. Just read through my earlier posts for some background. I'm off to work so I don't have time for the appropiate links.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Yes, I'm waiting for my direct flight to Havana.
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    I find it hard to believe that there are " NO " votes on this issue. They must live in a toilet bowl or are extremely cloistered.
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