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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    We will inspire the changes we want to see in Cuba by opening up travel, trade and communication with the Cuban people. China still has many Human rights issues, but the people are better off since the west stopped isolating them. Isolating Cuba has been proven to be ineffective and creates unnecessary misery.
    I don't agree. The Cuban regime was not interested in trade with the west until their sugar daddy, the USSR fell off the grid. The USSR had financed Cuba and propped up the regime with phony sugar cane subsidies. Now that those subsidies are gone, the regime has to rise or fall on it's own. As cruel as it may sound to some, the most compassionate action we can take is to continue the embargo until their communist system of government collapses. Then Cuba will become the prosperous Island Vacation Oasis it once was. All they are looking for now is western dollars to prop up the regime. If we drop the embargo with no conditions, the Cuban people's lot in life will see little or no improvement as long as the present form of government exists.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    2014 - 1959 = 55 years. Be serious. Strom Thurmond died in 2003.
    I wasn't aware that Thurmond was a Cuban law-maker...


    I'm not a big fan of the embargo, but I understand the rational behind maintaining it. Cuba is a severely oppressive dictatorship who's leadership was part of the biggest threat to this nation we've ever had (the Cuban Missile Crisis). Taking steps to make sure that a clear message is sent about this kind of thing is important. I do believe that opening up tourism to/from Cuba would be a good thing, but I'd hesitate to go much further than that until the Cuban leaders who were a part of the Cuban Missile Crisis are no longer in power.
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Cubans have decided they want communism. Let them keep it and its consequences until they see fit.
    What government they have in their country is their business. And if I choose to do business with a country that does things differently the US federal government should BUTT OUT.
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    All communism needs is capitalisms money to sustain itself. We saw this in the USSR, we see it now in China. Adopt capitalist principles and keep the same marxist fail and they are GTG for decades.
    "Communism" in the USSR fell and China is adapting to a more capitalist system. Cuba on the other hand remains firmly "communist" with the embargo. Who's strategy is working?
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    What government they have in their country is their business. And if I choose to do business with a country that does things differently the US federal government should BUTT OUT.
    I think its a legitimate function of govt to set some degree of diplomatic and trade relations.
    Whats keeping you from moving to a more Cuba-friendly nation? Id just like you to engage in all the free trade you'd like.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    "Communism" in the USSR fell and China is adapting to a more capitalist system. Cuba on the other hand remains firmly "communist" with the embargo. Who's strategy is working?
    China pulled its head out and figured out that it would end up like East Germany if it didn't adapt. As of now, Cuba has the govt it wants, and will need to accept the consequences of that.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    We need more Cuban restaurants... that **** rocks.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuatara View Post
    From your own article

    Surely you don't blame Castro for the droughts and hurricanes. Cuba has also gone into a more organic method of growing crops because the cost of fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides are more expensive coming from nations that are lot further away. It doesn't matter though. I'm sure it's all Castro's fault.
    In the 1950's Cuba supplied close to 35% of the sugar cane to the world marker, the largest exporter in the world. In 1958 Cuba had 161 mills with a productive capacity of 8.2 million metric tons of sugar, and Cuban nationals were owners of 120 of the 161 sugar mills that produced 62% of the sugar.

    With the dismantling of 70% of the sugar mills, only 44 of 156 remain in operation. The island sugar industry continues its unstoppable course towards disappearance. Cuba simply has stopped being a sugar-producing country.

    In 2010 the island sugar production with 44 mills in operation was only 1.1 million MT with a population of 11.2.millions. In 1894, one year before the War of Independence, the island produced 1.05 million MT with a population of 1.7 million. One hundred and sixteen years later the Castroit regime produced basically the same amount. Castro I achieved the inconceivable, make a reality the phrase “without sugar there is no country.”

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Castro is essentially dead.


    Now that the inferior subhuman is gone we can and should begin reintroducing Cuba to the rest of the world (rest of the world = USA).


    I'll bet that's news to him.

    He's still mobile.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    China pulled its head out and figured out that it would end up like East Germany if it didn't adapt. As of now, Cuba has the govt it wants, and will need to accept the consequences of that.
    But its okay to trade with other dictatorships like Saudi Arabia?
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