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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Sure, it's probably been long enough.

    Whether we do or don't means little to me at the moment.

    And yea, Cuba's nothing like North Korea. Far as dictatorships go, it's not that bad. Nice beaches.
    And its kind of odd ball that Canadians, Europeans and people from all over the world vacation there but Americans, who specialize in individual freedom are banded from traveling there (less restrictions) by orders of our central government. We had a foreign exchange student from Spain stay with us recently and were talking about places her family had traveled, Cuba being one place. Since its so close she was curious as to whether we'd been there. Europeans do a lot more international travel that we do anyway (because if you live in America why go anywhere else? ), but that's another thread. When I told her our government prohibits it, she was speechless.
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I never said that China was an angel, but we both have shared interests and can work together.
    We sort of have to at this point. The legacy of Nixon and Kissinger. Within months they will reportedly surpass America as the world's leading economy.. but of course that's because of Obama. How do we expect to compete with sweat shop wages with our minimum wage that the libs actually want to increase, not to mention child labor laws?
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    In reality there is not such embargo since in the year 2000 the United States Congress lifted the prohibition of the sale of agricultural products and medicines to Cuba, thereby allowing Castro’s regime to buy everything it needs.

    The United States has for years been one of Cuba's principal trading partners. In total, the United States in 2010 also authorized $861 million in private humanitarian assistance in the form of gift parcels filled with food and other basic necessities, as well as non-agricultural and medical donations. In agricultural products alone, the United States exported $361.7 million in food and agricultural products and $144.4 million in healthcare products to Cuba in 2010.
    You forgot to mention that the US will not buy any of Cuba's exports. Cuba has to spend more money to send their exports further. As for the US sending food and other basic necessities, as well as non-agricultural and medical donations, this was done after the Trade Sanction Reform and Export Enhancement Act was passed. The first ship didn't leave for Cuba until 2012 and it was Cuban-Americans sending it to their family members. That is not trade. There is also the Cuban Democracy Act which states
    All countries trading with Cuba should discontinue doing so as well as cancel any economic activity with the country
    Any country trading with Cuba risks not being eligible for aid from the U.S.
    Any vessel which has traded goods or services with Cuba cannot within 180 days dock at a U.S. port
    Currency traded from the U.S. to Cuba will be limited in order to prevent the Cuban government from obtaining access to U.S. currency
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I got curious and looked online today and its a lot easier to legally vacation there than I thought.

    1. Religious trips are legal. Missions groups from churches, etc.

    2. Educational trips are legal. Foreign exchange students, study abroad, college tours.

    3. Cultural exchange trips are legal. Pop stars who go there to share American culture, Dennis Rodman can hold basketball tournaments, the symphony orchestra can go to perform with the Cuban counterpart, etc.

    and 4. Regular Americans visiting as long as they have significant contact with locals so we get to know them and they get to know us through a state department licensed tour operator who knows the particular rules.

    Travel however is not direct. You'd need to connect in Canada, Mexico, Jamaica, The Bahamas or some other likely Caribbean or Latin American country.
    And by chartered air-travel or other travel from the US; must be a chartered flight.
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Europeans do a lot more international travel that we do anyway
    No, just Germany, we rank second in terms of nations that travel internationally the most. However, with 300 million people and many having not been to another country, it can feel this way. It's a lot easier for Europeans to travel to other countries by default, just to add.

    Anyway, to be fair, Americans can still travel to Cuba....just gotta circumvent some stuff.
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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    yes the embargo should be lifted, in the interest of the American people....why the American people?


    by lifting the embargo, this will allow the Cubans to slowly rebuild their economy on their own, making it stronger.


    if the embargo stands and the GOVERNMENT FALLS, then the American tax payers on going to be on the hook for "billions" to rebuild that nation.

    the u.s. would immediately begin creating aid packages to Cuba, anyone who have studied our history for the last several decades knows that.



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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuatara View Post
    You forgot to mention that the US will not buy any of Cuba's exports. Cuba has to spend more money to send their exports further. As for the US sending food and other basic necessities, as well as non-agricultural and medical donations, this was done after the Trade Sanction Reform and Export Enhancement Act was passed. The first ship didn't leave for Cuba until 2012 and it was Cuban-Americans sending it to their family members. That is not trade. There is also the Cuban Democracy Act which states
    The Castroit regime has nothing to sale, no sugar, tobacco , coffee, etc. The regime imported $13.8 billion during 2012, but was only able to export $5.58 billion of merchandises during 2012, according to Cuba's National Statistics Office. The trade balance deficit amount to $822 biilion.

    On December 12, 2013, the regime-run weekly Trabajadores reported that “coffee production has fallen by 90 percent in recent years. Cuba once produced 60,000 tons of coffee per year, but now it scarcely reaches 10 percent of that quantity,” Trabajadores said, citing figures compiled by the Agriculture Ministry.

    Cuba coffee harvest in 1956 reached 60,000 tons and was capable of exporting 20,000 tons valued at $20 million. In 2012, coffee production reached only 4,000 tons. Coffee production has suffered a huge reduction of 93.3% in comparison with 1956, and imports of coffee amounted to $50 million. Coffee production per capita in 1956 with a population of 6.3 million was 21 pounds, and in 2012 with a population of 11.2 million of only 0.79 lbs. Another of the great catastrophes of the Castroit regime.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    The Castroit regime has nothing to sale, no sugar, tobacco , coffee, etc. The regime imported $13.8 billion during 2012, but was only able to export $5.58 billion of merchandises during 2012, according to Cuba's National Statistics Office. The trade balance deficit amount to $822 biilion.

    On December 12, 2013, the regime-run weekly Trabajadores reported that “coffee production has fallen by 90 percent in recent years. Cuba once produced 60,000 tons of coffee per year, but now it scarcely reaches 10 percent of that quantity,” Trabajadores said, citing figures compiled by the Agriculture Ministry.

    Cuba coffee harvest in 1956 reached 60,000 tons and was capable of exporting 20,000 tons valued at $20 million. In 2012, coffee production reached only 4,000 tons. Coffee production has suffered a huge reduction of 93.3% in comparison with 1956, and imports of coffee amounted to $50 million. Coffee production per capita in 1956 with a population of 6.3 million was 21 pounds, and in 2012 with a population of 11.2 million of only 0.79 lbs. Another of the great catastrophes of the Castroit regime.
    From your own article

    Experts cited in the article said that the main causes of the drop in coffee production include prolonged droughts, the hurricanes that have slammed Cuba in recent years and the government’s failure to provide growers with enough fertilizers, herbicides, insecticides and tools.

    They also mentioned the introduction of plagues “by enemy hands” and the exodus of producers to other crops “seeking greater income.”
    Surely you don't blame Castro for the droughts and hurricanes. Cuba has also gone into a more organic method of growing crops because the cost of fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides are more expensive coming from nations that are lot further away. It doesn't matter though. I'm sure it's all Castro's fault.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    We sort of have to at this point. The legacy of Nixon and Kissinger. Within months they will reportedly surpass America as the world's leading economy.. but of course that's because of Obama. How do we expect to compete with sweat shop wages with our minimum wage that the libs actually want to increase, not to mention child labor laws?
    I assure you the left has put no thought into it and more importantly does not care.

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    Re: Should the US end its embargo against Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Exactly. The liberal defense of socialism and communism is that the Soviets weren't real socialists or communists; and the Chinese aren't real socialists or communists; and the Cubans aren't real socialists or communists; and the North Koreans aren't real socialists or communists; and the Nazis weren't real socialists.

    Will the real socialist please stand up so we can judge you?
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