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    Re: Who wins the senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Check out the Congressional Ballot polls at Real Clear Politics
    RealClearPolitics - RealClearPolitics Poll Averages
    The average for Republicans is still +3. This is huge this late in the game.
    But also look at those who are polling and the left leaning pollsters are showing huge numbers in favor of Republicans and places like Fox are giving an advantage to Democrats +1.
    At this point one has to wonder if these polls are designed to get the vote out oh say to the left to stop a Republican gain or in Fox's case to show the need for every able Republican to get out and vote with a 1+ in the margin. Real Clear Poliitics today finally with all their averages of polls officially gave the Republicans the lead in the races for Senate.
    Sometimes people try to read too much into what is there. Right, Left, in the Middle pollsters when looking at RCP and its averages do not mean much. It is the average that counts. Any polling firm can have a skewed poll and it happens more times than the polling firms will admit.

    Then you also have polling firms that ask only one question, which party are you going to vote for in November and that is their total. Other polling firms ask you the same question but if you answer undecided, they will continue and ask which party are you leaning towards. Then they add up the two. Another polling firm may ask the first two questions and if you answer you are voting for a third party candidate, they may ask if he wasn't in the race, who would you then vote for.

    All of this is listed inside the polls, but it take times to find.
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    Re: Who wins the senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The election is only a few days off and it will be close. Im mailing in my ballot tommorow.


    (barring recounts) Who wins the Senate next week?
    North Carolina is one of the seats currently held by a democrat that seems to be vulnerable. Do you know which other states are considered up for grabs?

    I'll be voting for Thom Tillis (R) on Tuesday but I am pretty certain that Kay Hagan (D) will be keeping her seat. Thom Tillis has a reputation as a liberal Republican. There will be a lot of Republicans sitting this election out especially those who voted for Rand Paul's candidate, Greg Brannon, in the Republican Primary.

    I'm not sure which other seats are vulnerable. I can't make a guess.

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    Re: Who wins the senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Vesper.

    You may have a good point! I haven't seen this much interest in a midterm in a long time. I'm not including the 2010 midterms - I believe the outrage over the ACA was deliberately downplayed at that time, but people didn't care what the polls said, they voted how they felt! Even Obama called it a "shellacking" for the Dems!

    It sounds like you had a great time tonight with your trick or treaters! Fun reading!
    Hi Pol. Have you seen the current polling over the ACA? The disapproval of it is as strong as ever. Many people are going through their "second" increase in premiums since then. I know I am. Mine just went up another 52 smackeroos. a month. Oh Joy. Yes there is a lot of interest on the "right" over this election. So to show congressional ballot ratings at +1 for Democrats by pollsters like Fox to me is clearly using a way to motiviate all Republicans to get out and vote. Put their differences aside, forgive the elites who sh*t on the conservatives and get a majority of Republicans in the Senate where a lot of good things supported bi-partisan in the House could be a reality with the current leader Senate Harry Reid removed from his position. Because ole Harry has been taking every piece of bi-partisan legislation passed by the House that could ultimately piss on some of the "special interests" donors of the Democratic party and has placed them in file thirteen. And you can't have that during an election year. And in doing so, has allowed the almighty Obama not to have to pull out his Veto pen during an a election year. Whether it has to do with the special interest of Environmentalists , where there are several bi-partisan pieces of legislation that would stop a number of feckless job killing regulations, or the disproval of Obamacare, or the dismantling or our military, or the incompetent handling of securing our borders, or the increase of violations of privacy under this administration, or feckless handling of Ebola, or the very nature of the civil liberties of people of faith being violated, there is bi-partisan members in the House to support these issues. But it goes nowhere with Harry at the realm in the Senate. I think folks are finally figuring it out the only way to keep a president like Obama in check is to have a legislative branch willing to oppose him allowing them to pass such bills, go to conference and force Obama to sign them or veto them that may very well hinder the next Democratic candidate for president.

    And yes I had a great time passing out candy. Cheers!

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    Re: Who wins the senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Sometimes people try to read too much into what is there. Right, Left, in the Middle pollsters when looking at RCP and its averages do not mean much. It is the average that counts. Any polling firm can have a skewed poll and it happens more times than the polling firms will admit.

    Then you also have polling firms that ask only one question, which party are you going to vote for in November and that is their total. Other polling firms ask you the same question but if you answer undecided, they will continue and ask which party are you leaning towards. Then they add up the two. Another polling firm may ask the first two questions and if you answer you are voting for a third party candidate, they may ask if he wasn't in the race, who would you then vote for.

    All of this is listed inside the polls, but it take times to find.
    I understand, but currently the average of all polls for congressional ballot is still up +3 for Republicans. That's huge.

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    Re: Who wins the senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Hi Pol. Have you seen the current polling over the ACA? The disapproval of it is as strong as ever. Many people are going through their "second" increase in premiums since then. I know I am. Mine just went up another 52 smackeroos. a month. Oh Joy. Yes there is a lot of interest on the "right" over this election. So to show congressional ballot ratings at +1 for Democrats by pollsters like Fox to me is clearly using a way to motiviate all Republicans to get out and vote. Put their differences aside, forgive the elites who sh*t on the conservatives and get a majority of Republicans in the Senate where a lot of good things supported bi-partisan in the House could be a reality with the current leader Senate Harry Reid removed from his position. Because ole Harry has been taking every piece of bi-partisan legislation passed by the House that could ultimately piss on some of the "special interests" donors of the Democratic party and has placed them in file thirteen. And you can't have that during an election year. And in doing so, has allowed the almighty Obama not to have to pull out his Veto pen during an a election year. Whether it has to do with the special interest of Environmentalists , where there are several bi-partisan pieces of legislation that would stop a number of feckless job killing regulations, or the disproval of Obamacare, or the dismantling or our military, or the incompetent handling of securing our borders, or the increase of violations of privacy under this administration, or feckless handling of Ebola, or the very nature of the civil liberties of people of faith being violated, there is bi-partisan members in the House to support these issues. But it goes nowhere with Harry at the realm in the Senate. I think folks are finally figuring it out the only way to keep a president like Obama in check is to have a legislative branch willing to oppose him allowing them to pass such bills, go to conference and force Obama to sign them or veto them that may very well hinder the next Democratic candidate for president.

    And yes I had a great time passing out candy. Cheers!
    Excellent post! You covered everything I've been hearing! It will probably be explained as "Obama fatigue" because we voters are such a fickle bunch, you know - not smart enough to understand things. I've been called worse, so I don't much care. Cheers back at ya!

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    Re: Who wins the senate?

    Is it odd that my first thought upon reading this title was "your mom?"

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    Re: Who wins the senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    North Carolina is one of the seats currently held by a democrat that seems to be vulnerable. Do you know which other states are considered up for grabs?

    I'll be voting for Thom Tillis (R) on Tuesday but I am pretty certain that Kay Hagan (D) will be keeping her seat. Thom Tillis has a reputation as a liberal Republican. There will be a lot of Republicans sitting this election out especially those who voted for Rand Paul's candidate, Greg Brannon, in the Republican Primary.

    I'm not sure which other seats are vulnerable. I can't make a guess.
    Several states are up for grabs, below is rcp's data, note that none are "leans dem"

    RealClearPolitics - 2014 Election Maps - Battle for the Senate
    Leans Dem
    Toss Up
    AK: Begich (D)
    CO: Udall (D)
    GA: Open (R)
    IA: Open (D)
    KS: Roberts (R)
    LA: Landrieu (D)
    NH: Shaheen (D)
    NC: Hagan (D)
    Leans GOP
    AR: Pryor (D)
    KY: McConnell (R)
    Likely GOP
    MS: Cochran (R)
    SD: Open (D)
    WV: Open (D)
    Safe GOP Seats

    I know how you feel about crappy choices/candidates. I got to pick between a wide-eyed anti-gun lib and a dem-light anti-gun republican in my state, I left that choice blank, Kashkari essentially told me not to vote for him and I obliged, but he's not going to win anyway.

    To quote the line from the movie Chinatown-forget about it jake, its chinatown.

    Nationally the news looks much better from my perspective. Listening to libs claim that somehow their loss this election is good for them long term-funny thing is the only thing they ever claim thats good for America is invariably voting dem. Yeah right.

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    Re: Who wins the senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Hi Pol. Have you seen the current polling over the ACA? The disapproval of it is as strong as ever. Many people are going through their "second" increase in premiums since then. I know I am. Mine just went up another 52 smackeroos. a month. Oh Joy. Yes there is a lot of interest on the "right" over this election. So to show congressional ballot ratings at +1 for Democrats by pollsters like Fox to me is clearly using a way to motiviate all Republicans to get out and vote. Put their differences aside, forgive the elites who sh*t on the conservatives and get a majority of Republicans in the Senate where a lot of good things supported bi-partisan in the House could be a reality with the current leader Senate Harry Reid removed from his position. Because ole Harry has been taking every piece of bi-partisan legislation passed by the House that could ultimately piss on some of the "special interests" donors of the Democratic party and has placed them in file thirteen. And you can't have that during an election year. And in doing so, has allowed the almighty Obama not to have to pull out his Veto pen during an a election year. Whether it has to do with the special interest of Environmentalists , where there are several bi-partisan pieces of legislation that would stop a number of feckless job killing regulations, or the disproval of Obamacare, or the dismantling or our military, or the incompetent handling of securing our borders, or the increase of violations of privacy under this administration, or feckless handling of Ebola, or the very nature of the civil liberties of people of faith being violated, there is bi-partisan members in the House to support these issues. But it goes nowhere with Harry at the realm in the Senate. I think folks are finally figuring it out the only way to keep a president like Obama in check is to have a legislative branch willing to oppose him allowing them to pass such bills, go to conference and force Obama to sign them or veto them that may very well hinder the next Democratic candidate for president.

    And yes I had a great time passing out candy. Cheers!
    Thats what Im talkin bout!

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    Re: Who wins the senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I understand, but currently the average of all polls for congressional ballot is still up +3 for Republicans. That's huge.
    It still is fairly close. By comparison here are the national averages from 2006, 2010 and 2012

    2012 generic Democrats 48% Republicans 46% Democrats picked up 8 House seats and 2 senate seats
    2010 generic Democrats 41% Republicans 51% Republicans picked up 63 House seats and 6 senate seats
    2006 generic Democrats 52% Republicans 44% Democrats picked up 33 House seats and 6 senate seats.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Who wins the senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Excellent post! You covered everything I've been hearing! It will probably be explained as "Obama fatigue" because we voters are such a fickle bunch, you know - not smart enough to understand things. I've been called worse, so I don't much care. Cheers back at ya!
    Obama fatigue is a good word for it. The voters had Bush fatigue for his last two years. So much so I do not think it really mattered who the candidates were in 2008, the Democratic one was going to win. There are elections like this.

    It is too early to tell if Obama fatigue will continue for his last two years. He still can turn it around. Time will tell.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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