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How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????


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Right, and just because black people are followed all around stores while they shop doesn't mean they're being stereotyped in any way at all. :roll:

There are various reasons that these things happen. Sometimes a black person will be followed in a store but that's not necessarily because they're black. It could just as easily be because they acted in a way to arouse suspicion. The same applies to women in public. Perhaps a particular mannerism elicits a certain response from various people. Perhaps she has a look ion her face like she's having a rough day and someone comments in a way they believe to be friendly. If she interprets that to be harassment then that's her problem, not theirs.
 
Has somebody stated that this video is implying that ALL men are jerks?

Yes, the implication was the video makes men look bad. No, it just makes men who do this look bad.

...around 40% of domestic violence is committed by women.

That is horrible and certainly worthy of a thread. But it isn't what this thread is about.
 
You have obviously not had dozens of women chase you down the street whooping about how they want to ravage you... well I have. It is frightening.

You were a member of the Beatles or theRolling Stones? Awesome ;)
 
Yes, most of that is harassment, that most women just get used too. It's annoying and can be scary, because you never know who is going to get really angry and may attack you.
 
It was a 2 minute video over the course of 10 hours of walking the streets. That means that she was un harassed for 9 hours and 58 minutes. How long do people usually walk in New York City?

Let's assume the average woman walks for 1 hour per day. Utilizing math that woman is likely to be forced to endure 12 seconds of harassment each day.

No, that doesn't mean that. For example, the guy walked next to her for 5 min. That wasn't fully shown in the video. As mentioned earlier, there were 100 episodes over 10 hours.
 
Yes, the implication was the video makes men look bad. No, it just makes men who do this look bad.



That is horrible and certainly worthy of a thread. But it isn't what this thread is about.

I think that the video is not trying to make men look bad, just normal non-offensive comments or advances as looking bad.
 
Yes, most of that is harassment, that most women just get used too. It's annoying and can be scary, because you never know who is going to get really angry and may attack you.

If most women have to face it enough to get used to it... but are scared because you never know who is going to get really angry and may attack you, then are you saying that most women have been attacked?

If they have not been attacked then what are they fearing? If that girl walked around and was "harassed" by hundreds of men over ten hours and was never even close to physically threatened, much less attacked, doesn't that indicate that most of these women's fears are unfounded?
 
You were a member of the Beatles or theRolling Stones? Awesome ;)

Just look at my selfie-avatar pic. You tell me what a woman wouldn't get horny about...
 
Right, and just because black people are followed all around stores while they shop doesn't mean they're being stereotyped in any way at all. :roll:

:lol:

"Right"? So you are saying that just because a guy looks a woman's way that means he is fantasizing about ****ing her? What delusional world do you live in?
 
I grew up in a city where most of this stuff is normal. I don't necessarily see all of it as "harassment" - a lot of it is merely being impolite. You want to see out in the open sexual harassment? Go to Mexico City wearing a skirt.
 
I grew up in a city where most of this stuff is normal. I don't necessarily see all of it as "harassment" - a lot of it is merely being impolite. You want to see out in the open sexual harassment? Go to Mexico City wearing a skirt.

Or most of Italy....
 
If most women have to face it enough to get used to it... but are scared because you never know who is going to get really angry and may attack you, then are you saying that most women have been attacked?

If they have not been attacked then what are they fearing? If that girl walked around and was "harassed" by hundreds of men over ten hours and was never even close to physically threatened, much less attacked, doesn't that indicate that most of these women's fears are unfounded?

No, because one in six women will be raped in her lifetime; that is a rather scary number.

It's not this big crippling thing, but it is a valid fear and can be upsetting. Some guys just won't take no for an answer and will continue to harass someone well after they have been told to leave that person alone. Just because this woman wasn't assaulted during her one day of walking around, doesn't mean that it isn't something we all have to worry about on some level.
 
I grew up in a city where most of this stuff is normal. I don't necessarily see all of it as "harassment" - a lot of it is merely being impolite. You want to see out in the open sexual harassment? Go to Mexico City wearing a skirt.

That sounds yucky.
 
No, because one in six women will be raped in her lifetime; that is a rather scary number.

It's not this big crippling thing, but it is a valid fear and can be upsetting. Some guys just won't take no for an answer and will continue to harass someone well after they have been told to leave that person alone. Just because this woman wasn't assaulted during her one day of walking around, doesn't mean that it isn't something we all have to worry about on some level.

Not to diminish rape because it is horrible, but that stat, even if true, is misleading and a Straw Man. Many to most rapes happen in a marriage, a relationship, with a family member or close friend and NOT from some stranger making comments as you walk by.
 
:lol:

"Right"? So you are saying that just because a guy looks a woman's way that means he is fantasizing about ****ing her? What delusional world do you live in?

This started with my post about being creeped out when guys stare at me. Not glance my way, but stare for minutes at a time. It's creepy, and honestly not hard to tell what they're thinking about...
 
Yeah "Have a good day" doesn't really count as harassment for me.

Or hi, or how are you doing, or what is your name or any number of other comments. It might not be an exercise in manners or good social skills, but it is not harassment.
 
Shoshana B. Roberts - Actress

She advertises her bust size on the bio page of her web site. So which is it? Do you not want to be objectified, or are you going to use your 34DDs to get you work? Double standard anyone?
1. She's an actress. She put her dress size, bust size and several other physical characteristics on there which would be expected for someone whose employers want to know those facts.

2. Putting her bust size on her website does not mean that she wants or has consented to comments about her appearance in public, outside of work. What people like you don't seem to understand is that consent in one place does not equal consent in all places. If someone solicits comments about themselves in one context (e.g. work), it does not mean that they solicit comments in all contexts.
 
This started with my post about being creeped out when guys stare at me. Not glance my way, but stare for minutes at a time. It's creepy, and honestly not hard to tell what they're thinking about...

Fair enough... I was just going off her comment. Staring can be creepy. I agree. There are guys that stare in that making eye contact is a powerful thing. The creepy part is when they don't have the social skills to realize that they female doesn't want eye contact and he keeps staring.

My philosophy was that in order to get into her pants I made her feel like **** and to get her to leave I made myself look like ****...







Joking...
 
Are you saying that men can't be educated and have a good career?

It had been a day since I have seen it, but one of the comments almost looked like it came from a guy trying to attract the attention of a customer or something to that effect. Could be wrong though.
 
It had been a day since I have seen it, but one of the comments almost looked like it came from a guy trying to attract the attention of a customer or something to that effect. Could be wrong though.

I was trying to make a joke... I think that I failed.
 
I was trying to make a joke... I think that I failed.

Trust me I'm at fault. I'm both bad at picking up such things and I am in a location trying to kill time.
 
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