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  • I'm male - None of it

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  • I'm male - Some of it

    23 34.33%
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    8 11.94%
  • I'm male - Most of it

    17 25.37%
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    6 8.96%
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    2 2.99%
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    The first 30 seconds was the worst. If I wanted a Capital One card, I would apply for a Capital One Mother ****ing card..................... ....... The stalker (following guy) was the second worst. Just because you're headed the same way doesn't mean that she wants your company. That, and you ugly.
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    sexual harrassment : uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical behavior of a sexual nature especially by a person in authority toward a subordinate (as an employee or student)

    sexual harassment : unsolicited verbal or physical behaviour of a sexual nature. Sexual harassment may embrace any sexually motivated behaviour considered offensive by the recipient.

    Sexual harassment - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    You have no valid argument, and thank you for proving my point.
    1.) You are also trying to change goal posts by going to sexual harassment (and that isn't going to fly), which is not general harassment which this topic is about.
    2.) Again, specificity. Sexual harassment is a legal term which does not apply here.
    3.) She was in the public, not a workplace.
    4.) She is not a subordinate of any of those in the video.
    5.) And such conduct was not persistent by any of the individuals.
    6.) The definitions in toto indicate that a persistence is required, as in, one incidence is not sexual harassment.

    Sexual Harassment

    Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature that tends to create a hostile or offensive work environment.

    Sexual harassment is a form of Sex Discrimination that occurs in the workplace. Persons who are the victims of sexual harassment may sue under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C.A. § 2000e et seq.), which prohibits sex discrimination in the workplace.

    The federal courts did not recognize sexual harassment as a form of sex discrimination until the 1970s, because the problem originally was perceived as isolated incidents of flirtation in the workplace. Employers are now aware that they can be sued by the victims of workplace sexual harassment. The accusations of sexual harassment made by anita f. hill against Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas during his 1991 confirmation hearings also raised societal consciousness about this issue.

    Courts and employers generally use the definition of sexual harassment contained in the guidelines of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). This language has also formed the basis for most state laws prohibiting sexual harassment. The guidelines state:

    Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitute sexual harassment when

    submission to such conduct is made either explicitly or implicitly a term or condition of an individual's employment,
    submission to or rejection of such conduct by an individual is used as the basis for employment decisions affecting such individuals, or
    such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual's work performance or creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment. (29 C.F.R. § 1604.11 [1980])


    sexual harassment legal definition of sexual harassment





    sexual harassment
    n.
    The making of unwanted and offensive sexual advances or of sexually offensive remarks or acts, especially by one in a superior or supervisory position or when acquiescence to such behavior is a condition of continued employment, promotion, or satisfactory evaluation.
    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

    sexual harassment
    n
    1. (Industrial Relations & HR Terms) the persistent unwelcome directing of sexual remarks and looks, and unnecessary physical contact at a person, usually a woman, esp in the workplace
    Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

    sexual harassment - definition of sexual harassment by The Free Dictionary





    EEOC
    Sexual Harassment


    [...]

    Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

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    Sexual Harassment



    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Like I said, it's subjective.
    And like I pointed out, you are wrong.
    Specific criteria (parameters) must be met in order for each to be either sexual harassment or regular harassment.


    And now for the finale point as to why you are wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    All of the comments in the video fit both definitions because all of the comments were uninvited, unwelcome and unsolicited.
    1.) They fit neither
    2.) Not that it matters, but uninvited and unsolicited? Yes.
    3.) In this instance (not that it matters to any other instance as shown), they were not unwelcome as you claim. They weren't just welcomed but they were wanted.
    She purposely set out to get them to record.
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You have no valid argument, and thank you for proving my point.

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    1.) They fit neither
    2.) Not that it matters, but uninvited and unsolicited? Yes.
    3.) In this instance (not that it matters to any other instance as shown), they were not unwelcome as you claim. They weren't just welcomed but they were wanted.
    She purposely set out to get them to record.
    I haven't responded to you in a year or more. I just wanted to see if your posts were still insurmountably illogical. They are. Carry on.

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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Some of those guys were creepy and weird and depending on what time of day it was, I might have walked up to the nearest cop to report their sleazy asses. Others were just being regular men trying to get the attention of every cute girl they see walking by. I have no problem with that. Where I come from, most of it is considered a compliment. I would have probably smiled or said "Hi" back to some of the cute or friendlier ones. Others, I would have ignored as the annoying, rude assholes they are.
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Maybe if she didn't act like a snooty bitch... just sayin
    What right do you have to demand that a total stranger be nice to you just because she's female?

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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I watched that last night, and had some mixed emotions about it. Much of it was just sort of mindless annoying behavior, by men who probably had no clue they were being jackasses. If it were me, I wouldn't have put myself in the position of being treated that way, in a couple of different ways. I wouldn't have walked the city wearing what she was wearing, and I wouldn't have done it alone. I not even in NYC, but in Texas, and I'm a good bit older than the woman in the vid, but I have the sense not to essentially ask for that type of treatment by men.

    I'm sure that the point of the video was probably to shame men for acting like asses, but seriously, by looking at the men in the video, who acted like they did, I wouldn't expect otherwise. Put the woman doing a similar "experiment" on Wall Street, and you'll very likely get a completely different result.
    She had a t-shirt and jeans on.... seriously? you don't think a woman should be able to walk down the street in a t-shirt and jeans and not get cat-called, harassed, and followed?

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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    What 10 hours of street harassment looks like - CNN.com



    Now some of it is outright harassment, but is all of it?

    Please watch the rather short video.
    There's definitely a lot of harassment going on.

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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    She had a t-shirt and jeans on.... seriously? you don't think a woman should be able to walk down the street in a t-shirt and jeans and not get cat-called, harassed, and followed?
    In all fairness, those were very tight-fitting jeans and t-shirt that left no doubt as to the magnificence of her tits and ass. Why else do you think she got so much attention?
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    What right do you have to demand that a total stranger be nice to you just because she's female?
    Where the 'demand'?
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    As dumb as white people saying racism against blacks doesn't exist anymore?
    What does race have anything to do with anything? Do you want to try using the black plague, holocaust, and the invention of sliced bread since they have nothing to do with this conversation either?
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