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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Whoa whoa whoa.....

    It's partially her fault??????????

    What she was wearing?????? Blue jeans and a t-shirt?????
    Avoiding eye contact, not saying anything, expressing an unfriendly demeanor in general.

    Here in Texas when someone offers you a "good morning" or " how ya doin?", it's good manners to respond in kind. Doesn't mater if you know them or not.

    BTW: I mentioned nothing about her clothes because there was nothing over-the-top slutty.
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    I'm not saying it's her fault. I'm saying I wouldn't have put myself in that position of being treated that way, by men who are thoughtless. It wasn't WHAT she was wearing. It was how she carried herself, and the image she projected. THe most significant issue was the audience. As I said, if she did the same thing walking down WAll Street, the reaction would likely have been very different. You need to have the sense to avoid being treated this way- but then the whole point of the video was to make men look inferior.

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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    There were a few instances that I consider harassment. The guy who says she should say thank you when someone calls her beautiful, the guy about 1:30 that pesters her and wants her number. The guy that follows her for 5 minutes is kind of creepy. Most of the rest was a little impolite, but didn't go far enough to be called harassment.

    Some of them are just ridiculous though.

    Do women really consider "How are you this morning" and "Have a nice evening" to be harassment?
    I don't find that harassing, I consider that to be polite. I agree with your take on it that there was some harassment, some people just being impolite, and just some people trying to be friendly.
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm not saying it's her fault. I'm saying I wouldn't have put myself in that position of being treated that way, by men who are thoughtless. It wasn't WHAT she was wearing. It was how she carried herself, and the image she projected. THe most significant issue was the audience. As I said, if she did the same thing walking down WAll Street, the reaction would likely have been very different. You need to have the sense to avoid being treated this way- but then the whole point of the video was to make men look inferior.
    Definitely feminazi-ish
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post

    BTW: I mentioned nothing about her clothes because there was nothing over-the-top slutty.
    Did you miss that I multi-quoted? So that part was not directed at you.

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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm not saying it's her fault. I'm saying I wouldn't have put myself in that position of being treated that way, by men who are thoughtless. It wasn't WHAT she was wearing. It was how she carried herself, and the image she projected. THe most significant issue was the audience. As I said, if she did the same thing walking down WAll Street, the reaction would likely have been very different. You need to have the sense to avoid being treated this way- but then the whole point of the video was to make men look inferior.
    She had a purpose. This wasn't just random. She did not engage or otherwise provoke. She walked. Not making eye contact. Probably like many men walk around NYC all the time.

    I'm for sure in the camp of some of the comments are not harassment.

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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Avoiding eye contact, not saying anything, expressing an unfriendly demeanor in general.

    Here in Texas when someone offers you a "good morning" or " how ya doin?", it's good manners to respond in kind. Doesn't mater if you know them or not.

    BTW: I mentioned nothing about her clothes because there was nothing over-the-top slutty.

    Here in Nebraska most of the time when you walk by someone, granted it's not as crowded in the street like in NYC, you generally say a hello, good <morning/afternoon>, or give a little nod. I don't take it as harassment unless the guy started pestering me about getting my number or following me like a couple of the guys in the video did. I found the comment that guy in the purple made "I just saw a thousand dollars or something" kind of funny, if someone said that to me on the street, I would no doubt laugh about it.
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Did you miss that I multi-quoted? So that part was not directed at you.
    Yes but, I threw that in to avoid answering later.
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Here in Nebraska most of the time when you walk by someone, granted it's not as crowded in the street like in NYC, you generally say a hello, good <morning/afternoon>, or give a little nod. I don't take it as harassment unless the guy started pestering me about getting my number or following me like a couple of the guys in the video did. I found the comment that guy in the purple made "I just saw a thousand dollars or something" kind of funny, if someone said that to me on the street, I would no doubt laugh about it.
    Yea that "$1000" thing sounded like a pimp. 8)
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    Re: How Much Of This Is Truly Harassment????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    What 10 hours of street harassment looks like - CNN.com

    Now some of it is outright harassment, but is all of it?

    Please watch the rather short video.
    There is no single answer to this question because harassment has subjective parameters. What one person considers a compliment another considers a disturbance. For instance, men used to make many comments about women's bodies in the workplace that are firmly considered sexual harassment today.

    My own opinion is that people determine their own boundaries and that we should respect boundaries that have been set and, in cases where we don't know a person's boundaries, we should take the most careful approach. Therefore, if you know a woman does not like comments about her appearance, don't make them. If you see a stranger on the street who you are attracted to, don't shout out comments about her appearance. If you still shout out a comment, then look at her response. If she doesn't respond well, definitely don't keep doing it.

    One more comment. I think a lot of men don't realize that many women have the threat of being sexually assaulted in the back of their mind much of time that they are walking by themselves. Men tend to be larger than most women so size alone can be scary, but then consider the added fear of assault and you can understand why some women are, at the least, uncomfortable by "catcalls". (What if I don't respond the right way? Is he going to follow me? If I smile, will he take that as an invitation and then get mad when I tell him "no"?)

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