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Proof and Facts[W:76"283]

Is it appropriate to demand proof or facts on Debate Politics?


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Looked to me like you challenged him, he proved it, but you rejected his proof, and now he's asking you to explain why you did so.

Perhaps I missed something somewhere.

Show me where he proved - what exactly.
 
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Show me where he proved - what exactly.
I don't know that he did - but he CLAIMED to have done so - I would presume that your disagreement with his proof is why you are being asked to explain why you don't accept said proof.
 
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Show me where he proved - what exactly.

your posts ignore the underlying foundation of the constitution and the bill of rights.
 
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your posts ignore the underlying foundation of the constitution and the bill of rights.
Judging from the exchange, he disagrees with you as to what, precisely, the "underlying foundation" is.
 
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I don't know that he did - but he CLAIMED to have done so - I would presume that your disagreement with his proof is why you are being asked to explain why you don't accept said proof.



Uh - yeah - he proved nothing
 
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Judging from the exchange, he disagrees with you as to what, precisely, the "underlying foundation" is.

Judging from the timing, I think you're a sock.
 
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Judging from the exchange, he disagrees with you as to what, precisely, the "underlying foundation" is.

I think it appears to be a lack of knowledge

the founders believed in natural rights. They premised the constitution on that and intended a federal government limited to the specific powers delegated it. A conflict arose between the "federalists" and the anti federalists because one group wanted guarantees of the inalienable rights they all believed in and to them merely NOT delegating a power to the federal government was not enough to alleviate their fears. so the bill of rights was established and as the USSC noted in Cruikshank, the right to keep and bear arms pre-existed the Bill of rights and was merely recognized by it. the commerce clause says nothing about congress having power over retail commerce between individuals and FDR ignored the clear language of the CC to "find additional powers"

this is all pretty much standard first year constitutional law stuff
 
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Judging from the timing, I think you're a sock.

He's been a member longer than me-9 plus years. same with me. so he's been a sock all those years and he finally shows up to support me

can you address his arguments?
 
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Uh - yeah - he proved nothing
Thus you do not accept his proof, and he's asking why.

"because I can" doesn't count as a counter, really..
 
Is it appropriate to demand proof and facts on Debate Politics?

From my observation 100% of posters on Debate Politics are anonymous. This is also the internet where words can be typed in any order to say anything imaginable. Concrete evidence can rarely be presented via the internet. I also think this is a place to express your opinion on interesting and non-interesting topics. Can't a person base their opinion upon a lie? Just because their opinion is based upon a lie this doesn't make their opinion any less valid. After all, it's an opinion. An opinion doesn't really hold much weight anyways. Sure occasionally an opinion can change someone's mind but that doesn't make it authoritative.

What do you guys think? Are proof and facts necessary when presenting your opinion?

It depends if you want an educated opinion. Usually, in debate, you are looking for opinions with facts to back them up. Basing an opinion on facts makes it an educated one whether people agree with said opinion. Two sides can present facts and have different opinions. All debates should have two sides.
 
It depends if you want an educated opinion. Usually, in debate, you are looking for opinions with facts to back them up. Basing an opinion on facts makes it an educated one whether people agree with said opinion. Two sides can present facts and have different opinions. All debates should have two sides.

some things should be only one sided

resolved: ebola is something I don't want spreading in the USA

is there a legitimate counter-argument?
 
some things should be only one sided

resolved: ebola is something I don't want spreading in the USA

is there a legitimate counter-argument?

Arguing for diseases to spread is really not an educated opinion unless one can back up why it is a good and/or even a worthy opinion.
 
Arguing for diseases to spread is really not an educated opinion unless one can back up why it is a good and/or even a worthy opinion.

well if you hate america and want it to be plagued by a pestilence
 
well if you hate america and want it to be plagued by a pestilence

Then, that is not based on educated facts and naturally can't be debated. People can have opinions based on bias, prejudice and or just plain hatred which makes for lousy debate.
 
Re: Proof and Facts

(chuckle)

This is the second time I'm asking you: what did turtle prove, and how did he prove it?
Again, I don't know that he proved anything.

He certainly CLAIMED to have proven something, and you disagreed with his claim/proof - now he's asking you to tell him why you disagree.

Unless I missed something in that jumble.
 
Re: Proof and Facts

Judging from the timing, I think you're a sock.

He has been warming feet since 2005... back when I started trolling.
 
Re: Proof and Facts

(chuckle)

This is the second time I'm asking you: what did turtle prove, and how did he prove it?

HE proved that the Mark ain't no sock...
 
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