View Poll Results: Is it appropriate to demand proof or facts on Debate Politics?

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  • Yes. We need the facts to make for fair discussion.

    41 61.19%
  • Yes. Some people make stuff up.

    24 35.82%
  • No. Demanding proof is a cop out or scare tactic.

    4 5.97%
  • No. Proof is for trials in court and irrelavent for debates.

    1 1.49%
  • Yes. Other.

    22 32.84%
  • No. Other.

    4 5.97%
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you can proclaim I lost an argument all I want

    can you answer the question

    Here is why

    if you deny the question as to what the founders intended- you lose

    if you admit it, then you admit I proved the point
    You don't know what you're talking about; I proved it - goodbye.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You don't know what you're talking about; I proved it - goodbye.
    So both of you are saying the other guy isn't arguing fair, so you win?
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You don't know what you're talking about; I proved it - goodbye.

    I am amused your posts don't contain an answer. but that is all the answer I need



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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So both of you are saying the other guy isn't arguing fair, so you win?
    No. The thread is about proofs and evidence. Turtledude made a ridiculous assertion and I challenged him to prove it and of course he couldn't. Now he wants to run around in circles and derail the thread. So, on the point of proof - which is the topic - he lost.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    No. The thread is about proofs and evidence. Turtledude made a ridiculous assertion and I challenged him to prove it and of course he couldn't. Now he wants to run around in circles and derail the thread. So, on the point of proof - which is the topic - he lost.
    Looked to me like you challenged him, he proved it, but you rejected his proof, and now he's asking you to explain why you did so.

    Perhaps I missed something somewhere.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Looked to me like you challenged him, he proved it, but you rejected his proof, and now he's asking you to explain why you did so.

    Perhaps I missed something somewhere.
    Show me where he proved - what exactly.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Show me where he proved - what exactly.
    I don't know that he did - but he CLAIMED to have done so - I would presume that your disagreement with his proof is why you are being asked to explain why you don't accept said proof.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Show me where he proved - what exactly.
    your posts ignore the underlying foundation of the constitution and the bill of rights.



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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    your posts ignore the underlying foundation of the constitution and the bill of rights.
    Judging from the exchange, he disagrees with you as to what, precisely, the "underlying foundation" is.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I don't know that he did - but he CLAIMED to have done so - I would presume that your disagreement with his proof is why you are being asked to explain why you don't accept said proof.


    Uh - yeah - he proved nothing
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