View Poll Results: Is it appropriate to demand proof or facts on Debate Politics?

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  • Yes. We need the facts to make for fair discussion.

    41 61.19%
  • Yes. Some people make stuff up.

    24 35.82%
  • No. Demanding proof is a cop out or scare tactic.

    4 5.97%
  • No. Proof is for trials in court and irrelavent for debates.

    1 1.49%
  • Yes. Other.

    22 32.84%
  • No. Other.

    4 5.97%
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually it does as it has not been overturned and is the law of the land.
    but that has nothing to do with the intent of the founders. we know FDR wanted to ban machine guns to pander to the fear about bootleggers and he was told by his AG a ban was unconstitutional. SO he comes up with this silly nonsense about a tax and a lapdog court sort of allowed it even though Miller was not even present during the argument and was had died by the time the case was remanded. the 10A issue was never discussed at all

    but trying to claim that Miller supports your claim that several clauses of sec. 8 were INTENDED to delegate such power to congress has absolutely no support.



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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So gay marriage should be illegal?
    Only on tuesdays if it is raining in more than three states in the first half of the alphabet providing your scientific survey gives them the right answer.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    but that has nothing to do with the intent of the founders.
    Did you miss the post earlier this evening where I stated my thoughts bout the intent of the founders? I urge you to review it.

    but trying to claim that Miller supports your claim that several clauses of sec. 8 were INTENDED to delegate such power to congress has absolutely no support.
    That is another of your strawmen. I never made that claim.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Only on tuesdays if it is raining in more than three states in the first half of the alphabet providing your scientific survey gives them the right answer.
    Weak dodge.

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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So you're claiming everyone else is a CTer because they understand history and science? No, dude. You're the one with the wacky narrative involving thousands of co-conspirators fooling millions of people.
    I lost any supposed meaning in all your ravings a long time ago. Sorry but you simply are making no sense.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Weak dodge.
    I thought it was the perfect answer which fit your question rather appropriately.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I lost any supposed meaning in all your ravings a long time ago. Sorry but you simply are making no sense.



    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I thought it was the perfect answer which fit your question rather appropriately.
    Yeah, sure. Tell us again how a ban on gay marriage is Constitutional because it's currently the law of the land.

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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post


    yeah - that was my reaction to your post also.

    Yeah, sure. Tell us again how a ban on gay marriage is Constitutional because it's currently the law of the land.
    I have no idea what that line of inquiry has to do with natural rights or their existence or your badly constructed survey question trying to prove they exist. It appears you are badly trying to change the subject.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    yeah - that was my reaction to your post also.
    Sure it was, that's why you're screaming and spewing nonsense.

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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sure it was, that's why you're screaming and spewing nonsense.
    If you want to discuss the topic, lets do that. I am NOT interested in violating a moderators warning here by getting into a pissing contest with you.
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