View Poll Results: Is it appropriate to demand proof or facts on Debate Politics?

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  • Yes. We need the facts to make for fair discussion.

    41 61.19%
  • Yes. Some people make stuff up.

    24 35.82%
  • No. Demanding proof is a cop out or scare tactic.

    4 5.97%
  • No. Proof is for trials in court and irrelavent for debates.

    1 1.49%
  • Yes. Other.

    22 32.84%
  • No. Other.

    4 5.97%
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think it's pretty obvious you don't care, CT positions are like that. You know... hologram planes, thermite, founding fathers that were lying and fooled everyone... that kind of stuff. CTers just repeat it over and over, no matter what evidence is presented to them. This leads to a condition wherein the CTer doesn't actually care about anything anyone else says because everything other people say contradicts their loony CT.

    They close the door to the outside, lock it and throw away the key. So, I don't think anyone is under the misconception that CTers care what non-CTers say. We know they can't.
    Are your initials CT or something?
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I would still like to see some facts and proof

    so we need a bit more
    No you would not as you have been given it and you reject it only to ask the same questions over and over and over again while refusing to answer my questions to you.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No you would not as you have been given it and you reject it only to ask the same questions over and over and over again while refusing to answer my questions to you.
    humor me and tell me all the proof you have marshaled in support of your claim about those clauses other than the commerce clause



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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No its not as you have rejected it when presented to you.
    The thread is not about proof? Sure it is. Your CT is being exposed for the slime it is. You have no proof, just "founders owned slaves so everything they said was a lie, even if science proves it, and everyone except me has been fooled!"

    You reject science, you reject history and you reject a sane interpretation of the Constitution. That does not constitute proof about anything or anyone else.

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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    humor me and tell me all the proof you have marshaled in support of your claim about those clauses other than the commerce clause
    Why should I humor you when you have been given everything you have asked for time after time after time, rejected it, only to ask for it again and again only to then reject it again?

    All I need is the commerce clause. And that gives me the win.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    . Your CT is being exposed for the slime it is.
    So your initials are CT?

    You reject science, you reject history and you reject a sane interpretation of the Constitution.
    YOu calling your nonsensical question in that bogus survey "science" is ridiculous. YOu still have not been able to explain what it even means.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Are your initials CT or something?
    CT stands for Conspiracy Theory. You know, wacky narratives without a shred of proof that involve hundreds or thousands of co-conspirators. And everyone that doesn't believe hologram planes or the founders as evil tricksters is an enemy to be ignored.

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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why should I humor you when you have been given everything you have asked for time after time after time, rejected it, only to ask for it again and again only to then reject it again?

    All I need is the commerce clause. And that gives me the win.
    this isn't HS Debate with a trophy. its about your proof that the other clauses support your claim and btw there is no evidence the CC was intended by the founders as a grant of gun control. can you find ANY EVIDENCE the founders wanted the CC to be so used



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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    CT stands for Conspiracy Theory.
    sure.

    Can you explain what this means and what it has to do with a scientific proof that natural rights exist?

    We can ask ourselves the question: "would I give up my right to life in order to take it away from all others".
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So your initials are CT?
    Really? That's pathetic. What's next, more screaming?

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