And when others here like yourself put forth the proposition that the Founders wrote the Bill of Rights to put these so called pre-existing rights into codified law because they believed in them as a principle - that is a lie since the FOunders believed in no such thing and we know it by their 100% contradictory actions.
That is my argument Turtle.
Already have by pointing out your view of it is a blatant falsehood as the Founders declared that ALL MEN were created equal and had natural rights. It was not about themselves - as you point out in your false framing of the issue - but in their words it was about ALL MEN.but then again, men who wanted natural rights for themselves would not limit a recognition of such rights. can you prove otherwise?
Not just Africans - but women also and then they denied even white men certain rights like voting. So it goes beyond just those pesky slaves mucking up their record.and merely saying the founders "lied" by not including blacks etc in the DOI, in no way proves your expansive interpretation of Sec 8 to grant the government all sorts of unmentioned powers is correct
The Supreme Court and thousands of legislators and many presidents prove my view of the Second Amendment is right.