View Poll Results: Is it appropriate to demand proof or facts on Debate Politics?

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  • Yes. We need the facts to make for fair discussion.

    41 61.19%
  • Yes. Some people make stuff up.

    24 35.82%
  • No. Demanding proof is a cop out or scare tactic.

    4 5.97%
  • No. Proof is for trials in court and irrelavent for debates.

    1 1.49%
  • Yes. Other.

    22 32.84%
  • No. Other.

    4 5.97%
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    If he uses mine will he win?
    its easy for him to make statements and say this is so and this is not so.

    yet he provides nothing to prove either.

    yet remains in denial when proof is provided by others.

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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Why haven't you ever learned to read? and Why are you bragging about your incapacity to read? If you are too lazy to read then don't brag about it. If you are too ignorant to read then you shouldn't brag about that either.

    If you are incapable of reading that's fine. Just don't brag about it. Keep that crap to yourself. How long was it? Two sentences?
    If he is ignorant then how would he know he can't read?
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    its easy for him to make statements and say this is so and this is not so.

    yet he provides nothing to prove either.

    yet remains in denial when proof is provided by others.
    But my comments are all powerful fact... he should use them to win.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    But my comments are all powerful fact... he should use them to win.
    well you should convey that to him.

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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    If he is ignorant then how would he know he can't read?
    Are you saying he is lying? Read this:

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    tl dr
    He is pretty much bragging about his incapacity. Are you suggesting that he is lying when he says, "tl dr" which translates to say, "too long, didn't read"?

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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Are you saying he is lying? Read this:



    He is pretty much bragging about his incapacity. Are you suggesting that he is lying when he says, "tl dr" which translates to say, "too long, didn't read"?
    I am saying that I was making a joke... read it again.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have read them and find nothing
    You chose to find nothing. There are none so blind as he who will not see. For you to do otherwise would be to shake the very foundations of your belief system to the ground so you live in denial.
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you have as usual nothing but your own words.....that is all
    So tell me EB - as a big natural rights believer perhaps you can answer a question when others here are avoiding it like french kissing an ebola carrier.

    If a belief in natural rights exists only in the belief system of the believer, can you explain how at the same time you can assert that these rights are "pre-existing" since a right which exists only as a belief cannot be exercised or used or enjoyed in reality in our world?
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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You chose to find nothing. There are none so blind as he who will not see. For you to do otherwise would be to shake the very foundations of your belief system to the ground so you live in denial.
    no one else has found it either Haymarket. NOT A SINGLE GUN BILL HAS EVER BEEN based on anything but the FDR fiction involving the commerce clause. You have continually failed to show us the specific language that you were able to find a delegation of power that FDR could not, his AG could not and your party leaders could not

    you have refused to print the words and explain why those words actually create a right

    listen-here is the deal

    the bill of rights were supposed to be read expansively

    grants of power narrowly. that is not subject to dispute

    what you do is the exact opposite

    you read the guarantee of our rights as narrowly as possible

    and your read the grant of power to the federal government more than as broadly possible-you make up grants of power that cannot be found in even the most liberal reading of the document

    and that is completely opposite of what this country was founded upon



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    Re: Proof and Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Are you saying he is lying? Read this:



    He is pretty much bragging about his incapacity. Are you suggesting that he is lying when he says, "tl dr" which translates to say, "too long, didn't read"?
    1) what caused you to butt in on an argument that has been going on long before you joined this forum

    2) i have seen all of his stale arguments before and I was saying the same old nonsense is too long and I didn't read it. More experienced posters on this board understand that. claiming I have some inability to read, rather than no desire to read the same silly argument for the 200th time is really pretty pathetic



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