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Thread: The military budget of the United States

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I agree. Corporate Welfare to the likes of GE, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Boeing, JPMorgan, BofA, Goldman Sachs,ExxonMobil, Chevron, and all the other Welfare Queens of the Military Industrial Corporate Complex needs to be eliminated completely. The War Hawks are killing our Nation with their greed.
    That too...and the peace loving democrats are killing it with their generosity with the taxpayers' money by giving it to freeloading lazy ass Americans and illegal aliens in order TO BUY THEIR VOTES. The democrats also participated with the War Hawks with the likes of GE, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Boeing, JPMorgan, BofA, Goldman Sachs,ExxonMobil, Chevron, and all the other Welfare Queens of the Military Industrial Corporate Complex. Remember when those turkeys were anxious as hell to go to war with Saddam Hussein, even while Clinton was the nations elected lover boy? And then participated in the implementation of the IRAQ war by JOINT (that means BOTH PARTIES) RESOLUTION OF CONGRESS....then denied it when the president Bush did it?

    If you don't remember, let me refresh your memory.



    And then there was that whole global warming scam and the wasted billions/trillions? of our tax money on the BANKRUPT "renewable energy" companies such as Solyndra and others. Harry Reid and his liberal cronies. Harry also is one of the WAR HAWKS who voted YEA on the JOINT RESOLUTION.
    Liberalismódividing up the EARNED wealth of honest, hard working and ingenious AMERICANS and giving it to the leeches who would rather waste their worthless lives living off the government teat.
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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    One more post about 'war hawks'...

    http://www.youtube.com/v/AgYLr_LfhLo...hl=en_US&rel=0
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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Thats true, but their military is tied very close to its economy, and that is much easier for us to attack then their military. All we would do is sanction them. There are to many very rich influencial people in the Chinese government who would suffer greatly if the US just decided to stop doing business with China. We have basically created a trump card we can use any time we like. Certainly, it would come at a cost to our own economy as well, but we would survive in the end and ultimately prevent war with China which would be even more costly then if we just sanctioned them.
    The Chinese will just find someone else to buy their goods.This globalist hogwash that if we tie each other in trade then we won't fight is just globalist hogwash,especially if that trade is mostly in one direction.


    If we had not sided with the Chinese during WW2, then Japan would have succeeded in invading China and would have had nearly a billion more bodies to throw into the war as well as slave labor to keep the efforts going. The rape of Nanking would have seemed like a vacation for the Chinese if we had not sided with them when we did. In fact, I believe, Hitlers genocide would have paled in comparison to the genocide that would have occurred if Japan had been allowed to control China for any period of time.
    What happens to citizens of other countries is not our business. Nor are the lives of citizens in other countries worth more than ours.





    Yes I do. Why does the government care about people who are just living mundane day to day lives? It would be a waste of resources the government does not have to spy on everyone. That does not even mention that it would be nearly impossible to make sense of any useful data just due to the amount of data that would be generated from spying on all 300+ million americans.
    The government spends money like a drunken trophy whore wife.So the government is not worried about running our of resources.



    Anyone who reads even a few pages of a history book understands that in order to be a world power, you HAVE to meddle in international affairs. The lesson to be learned is how to use restraint. Which the US seems to understand, but does not understand that there is a such thing as to much restraint.
    If meddling in the affairs is what it takes for us to be world power then I do not want us to be a world power. We do not need to make the world our bitch.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The Chinese will just find someone else to buy their goods.This globalist hogwash that if we tie each other in trade then we won't fight is just globalist hogwash,especially if that trade is mostly in one direction.
    The US is the largest economy on the planet. The chinese could not find a replacement for the US. That was the whole point in folding the Chinese into the international economy. We knew that once the elite chinese got a taste of western capitalism, they would never turn back. Especially since it free's them from the government. Instead of having to repeat and live by the government propaganda in order to stay in the elite class, they can do business with the government independent of the government. They have the ability to expand their business beyond China without being nationalized by the government. This penetration of the elite class by the capitalist system is exactly what has produced peace in the Pacific.

    What happens to citizens of other countries is not our business. Nor are the lives of citizens in other countries worth more than ours.
    Yes it is. Our economy relies on how citizens in other countries are doing. If they are all at war, we have no trading partners. Or, we loose trading partners due to changing alliances. There is a constant economic war going on where countries try to bribe and or influence elections and voting in order to get a person in charge that will be friendly to them economically. The world you want to live in, simply does not exist and has never existed in human history.

    The government spends money like a drunken trophy whore wife.So the government is not worried about running our of resources.
    It spends money on things people want. People dont want to pay taxes, but want the government to pay for everything for them. You may not want that, I may not want that, but the voters want that because they keep voting people in who put them in power just so they can get more from the government then they put into it.

    If meddling in the affairs is what it takes for us to be world power then I do not want us to be a world power. We do not need to make the world our bitch.
    You might want to buy your own island in some remote part of the ocean and start growing your own food, providing your own resources. There is not 1 country on the planet that is not playing the game. We just happen to play it best at the moment. However, that is been on the decline for many decades and we are starting to see the result of that.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you are the one actually having to do the fighting and risk your life then you might think twice before screaming like a piece of **** neocon that we should invade,send in troops, why is Obama saying we shouldn't send in troops.Sure there are some insane wackos who think the lives of foreigners, business and foreign interest are worth more than the lives of their fellow Americans.But most Americans are not like that like that cock sucker John McCain.
    So.... the guy you are claiming understands what it's like to risk your life in combat is Barack Obama, whereas the guy who you are saying doesn't is John McCain.....


    Yeah.... you may want to rethink your logic, there.

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So.... the guy you are claiming understands what it's like to risk your life in combat is Barack Obama, whereas the guy who you are saying doesn't is John McCain.....


    Yeah.... you may want to rethink your logic, there.
    You are not making any sense. Nowhere did I say Obama understand what it is like risking your life.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are not making any sense. Nowhere did I say Obama understand what it is like risking your life.
    You are the one who placed the ability to make foreign policy decisions square in the camp of understanding what it's like to risk your life and then chose to elevate Obama over McCain. And frankly, you are still kind of pissing me off on this. Where the **** do you get off telling fellow veterans that they are a bunch of pieces of **** because they support their mission?

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You are the one who placed the ability to make foreign policy decisions square in the camp of understanding what it's like to risk your life and then chose to elevate Obama over McCain.
    I did no such thing.Learn to read.

    And frankly, you are still kind of pissing me off on this. Where the **** do you get off telling fellow veterans that they are a bunch of pieces of **** because they support their mission?
    McCain is a ****en whack job neocon piece of ****.So I can call him a ****en whack job neocon piece of ****.No sane person tries to push us into war every chance he gets unless he is ****ed up in the head or just just ****en evil. Due to him being a former pow I say he is ****ed up in the head. Being a veteran doesn't make him infallible.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I did no such thing.Learn to read.
    Sure. I"ll let everyone read post 66 and come to their own conclusion on that one.

    McCain is a ****en whack job neocon piece of ****.So I can call him a ****en whack job neocon piece of ****.No sane person tries to push us into war every chance he gets unless he is ****ed up in the head or just just ****en evil. Due to him being a former pow I say he is ****ed up in the head. Being a veteran doesn't make him infallible.
    Noted.

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    my opinions on this topic :

    1. we should expand our commitment to veterans. no one should go to war or even serve and then get kicked out on the street to be homeless. if you serve, you should be guaranteed employment or enough money to cover your basic expenses for life. that is the absolute least that we can do for veterans, and it's a better use of tax revenue than maintaining a state of constant war for decades.

    2. enough pro bono war. if we have to solve a region's problems, that region pays us to do it. and this option should be reserved for absolute critical necessities, not police actions.

    3. transition to a peacetime force, and cut spending drastically. for those displaced, hire them to rebuild our own country. time to nation build at home.

    4. tell Europe that if it wants a military big enough to nation build and get involved in every regional conflict, then it needs to build and fund one. it's someone else's turn.

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