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Thread: The military budget of the United States

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Are you a grunt or are you a pog?
    I went to war as a grunt. How does that impact whether or not wrecking the international order upon which our economy is utterly dependent is a wise idea or not?

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I went to war as a grunt. How does that impact whether or not wrecking the international order upon which our economy is utterly dependent is a wise idea or not?
    The individual whose post I was quoting claimed he was in the military in response to a post of mine saying that cock sucking piece of **** neocons,globalist/internationalist and other piece of **** scum who think we should meddle in the affairs of other countries should be should immediately be drafted to serve as a E-1 private in a infantry unit as a machine gunner.That individual said it would not be that hard for him since he was already in the military. Which is why I asked if he was POG or grunt. He refused to answer meaning he was too ashamed to admit he is a pog.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Actually, signing China into a trade agreeming and getting them involved in the international economy has probably done a lot to at least delay China's militaristic actions to get back at Japan after WW2.
    Our trade deal with China has stregthened it militarily.

    [QUOTE]The Chinese are still very dependent on the international economy to grow itself militarily. The danger is, if China ever becomes anything like the US which it will in probably 20 years. Once it commands a good portion of the international economy, it can start pulling economic strings like we have been doing for the last 100 years to get what they want.
    The US is fairly benign in comparison to what China would be in our shoes. China would quickly invade Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and the Philippines. Then use those locations as forward operationg locations to expand further. Right now china is, for the most part, locked in by Taiwan. The minute they get a substantial Navy, they will command the Pacific.
    Those things would not be possible if traitors did not give jobs away to the Chinese.


    Why did we split up the country? AHHH!! Because of liberalist anti-war who continually protested the war. The politicians wanted to get re-elected, so instead of pushing the Chinese and the N.Koreans all the way back to the Chinese boarder, we stopped at the 38th parallel and left millions of Koreans at the hands of a dictator that to this day cares more about his imported liquor then feeding them. That debacle was entirely our fault. Not because we got involved, but because we did not have the resolve to finish the fight.
    It because we got involved why North Korea is the way it is now.Heck if we did not side with the Chinese in WWII then they would not have been able to help North Korea.


    Ah.. the tin foil pointy headed conspiracy theory that people have that the US govt cares about their boring mundane life. It certainly makes some really insane boring people feel important. Some people just are not complete unless some kind of government conspiracy is going on that makes them feel special because their lives are so boring and purposeless, government conspiracies gives them purpose. What other reason would there be for drinking beers and shooting at stuff in the woods.. playing soldier and screaming MERICA!!!
    You think the government spying on American citizens is a conspiracy? I guess it shows that you would rather be a subject than a citizen since you insist of pushing the lie that the government does not do those things.


    And they would be doing it to us even if we were not doing it to them.



    Of course, the difference is that people like you would be ok with them having nukes pointed at us while we destroy all of ours.
    As long as other countries have nukes I am perfectly okay with our country having nukes and having those nukes pointed at other countries.

    And you keep spewing idealist garbage strait from a Disney movie. The only difference between you and Barney is your not a purple dinosaur.
    The only idealists are you people who think the USA should be meddle in the affairs of other countries that will somehow protect us.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The individual whose post I was quoting claimed he was in the military in response to a post of mine saying that cock sucking piece of **** neocons,globalist/internationalist and other piece of **** scum who think we should meddle in the affairs of other countries should be should immediately be drafted to serve as a E-1 private in a infantry unit as a machine gunner.That individual said it would not be that hard for him since he was already in the military. Which is why I asked if he was POG or grunt. He refused to answer meaning he was too ashamed to admit he is a pog.
    Yeah, I get that you think you've scored a moral point because you don't think he's a grunt (incidentally, grunts are not the only people patrolling or getting shot at and shot back, but that's a different discussion), but the problem is it doesn't follow. Whether or not he is a grunt has zero bearing on whether or not the policy he is ascribing here is wise.

    As for the "pieces of scum" etc., well, in the finest traditions of the infantry, my reply would have to be: "Go **** yourself". If all you have is bile and the ability to bitch like a private, then sucks to be you, haul ass over to the working party .

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Whatever it takes and not a penny more.
    More significant is eliminating political ramifications. The Pentagon is the one to decide not some congress critter worried about military spending.

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah, I get that you think you've scored a moral point because you don't think he's a grunt (incidentally, grunts are not the only people patrolling or getting shot at and shot back, but that's a different discussion), but the problem is it doesn't follow. Whether or not he is a grunt has zero bearing on whether or not the policy he is ascribing here is wise.
    If you are the one actually having to do the fighting and risk your life then you might think twice before screaming like a piece of **** neocon that we should invade,send in troops, why is Obama saying we shouldn't send in troops.Sure there are some insane wackos who think the lives of foreigners, business and foreign interest are worth more than the lives of their fellow Americans.But most Americans are not like that like that cock sucker John McCain.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg. View Post
    In 2013 the United States spending 640 billion dollars to the military budget.

    What do you think about this number?
    I think we should cut welfare spending by 50% per year and use it to build and maintain a huge pierce proof dome over the United States to protect us against invasion, ebola outbreaks and nuclear attack. Of course it would need to be at lease 35,000/40,000 feet high to accommodate air traffic inside the dome.
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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    I think we should cut welfare spending by 50% per year and use it to build and maintain a huge pierce proof dome over the United States to protect us against invasion, ebola outbreaks and nuclear attack. Of course it would need to be at lease 35,000/40,000 feet high to accommodate air traffic inside the dome.
    That would cost way more than half the welfare budget per year.
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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Our trade deal with China has stregthened it militarily.
    Thats true, but their military is tied very close to its economy, and that is much easier for us to attack then their military. All we would do is sanction them. There are to many very rich influencial people in the Chinese government who would suffer greatly if the US just decided to stop doing business with China. We have basically created a trump card we can use any time we like. Certainly, it would come at a cost to our own economy as well, but we would survive in the end and ultimately prevent war with China which would be even more costly then if we just sanctioned them.

    It because we got involved why North Korea is the way it is now.Heck if we did not side with the Chinese in WWII then they would not have been able to help North Korea.
    If we had not sided with the Chinese during WW2, then Japan would have succeeded in invading China and would have had nearly a billion more bodies to throw into the war as well as slave labor to keep the efforts going. The rape of Nanking would have seemed like a vacation for the Chinese if we had not sided with them when we did. In fact, I believe, Hitlers genocide would have paled in comparison to the genocide that would have occurred if Japan had been allowed to control China for any period of time.

    You think the government spying on American citizens is a conspiracy? I guess it shows that you would rather be a subject than a citizen since you insist of pushing the lie that the government does not do those things.
    Yes I do. Why does the government care about people who are just living mundane day to day lives? It would be a waste of resources the government does not have to spy on everyone. That does not even mention that it would be nearly impossible to make sense of any useful data just due to the amount of data that would be generated from spying on all 300+ million americans.

    The only idealists are you people who think the USA should be meddle in the affairs of other countries that will somehow protect us.
    Anyone who reads even a few pages of a history book understands that in order to be a world power, you HAVE to meddle in international affairs. The lesson to be learned is how to use restraint. Which the US seems to understand, but does not understand that there is a such thing as to much restraint.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    Re: The military budget of the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    I think we should cut welfare spending by 50% per year and use it to build and maintain a huge pierce proof dome over the United States to protect us against invasion, ebola outbreaks and nuclear attack. Of course it would need to be at lease 35,000/40,000 feet high to accommodate air traffic inside the dome.
    I agree. Corporate Welfare to the likes of GE, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Boeing, JPMorgan, BofA, Goldman Sachs,ExxonMobil, Chevron, and all the other Welfare Queens of the Military Industrial Corporate Complex needs to be eliminated completely. The War Hawks are killing our Nation with their greed.

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