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More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

Anyone Feeding The Homeless Should Be A Crime


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Food is available to any and all in America. The homeless man / woman you choose to hand food too refuses to accept
societies gift because its either not where they want it, what they want or whatever strings might be attached to get it. To suggest
they'd starve in this nation is ludicrous moronic and typical left wing zealously / extremism.

Homeless people bring down communities, neighborhoods, and bring blight and decay for cities. Ask Detroit. If people
would stop handing them food, money or whatever they'd go where the communities are providing the services needed
for them. Its time to stop feeding the bears so they will stop crapping where they shouldn't.


Small problem: Humans are dependent on human food whether or not you feed them.
 
Duh! That's what zoning and pretty much all business regulation is about.

I think almost anyone would agree that they do not want a machine shop next door to their house, a strip club right across the street from their child's school or a toxic waste dump moving in right next to where their food is grown. It makes sense to zone where you can and can't aid the homeless.
 
Food is available to any and all in America. The homeless man / woman you choose to hand food too refuses to accept
societies gift because its either not where they want it, what they want or whatever strings might be attached to get it. To suggest
they'd starve in this nation is ludicrous moronic and typical left wing zealously / extremism.

Homeless people bring down communities, neighborhoods, and bring blight and decay for cities. Ask Detroit. If people
would stop handing them food, money or whatever they'd go where the communities are providing the services needed
for them. Its time to stop feeding the bears so they will stop crapping where they shouldn't.

I can only hope that you never discover how insensitive and silly this comment truly is.

I'm sincere about that.
 
It's not about the dollar signs. No one is suggesting just giving the homeless hordes of money will help them. I'm talking about programs to help them solve the problems many of them have, which by the way, are often caused by the fact that help was inaccessible to them BEFORE they were homeless. It could be free if everyone just agreed to do it. But in large societies, it always involve planning and thus money.

Right, it's cheaper to just try to starve them out, so that makes it inherently better.

Take a look at countries that solve the problem your way. The only difference is that they are paying folks to stay off the street.
 
In part, very true. But this was part of the story as well, and it is the cruel part.

How about that?

Nobody's going to jail. And if you're asking me when we go on vacation or when I go shopping and there are hundreds of homeless people congregating around waiting to be fed, would I prefer not to have to wait until they all move or not to have to cover my nose because of the smell? Yes. Sorry.

I've worked in food pantries and food kitchens. My kids all have had to do it at least twice a year as required by their schools. I don't want to starve the homeless. But do I want to enjoy a meal with my family or my husband? Yes. Call me callous.
 
Take a look at countries that solve the problem your way. The only difference is that they are paying folks to stay off the street.

I have. I've lived in them.

Actually, they have much higher rates of recovery and much less death due to non-treatment.
 
I can only hope that you never discover how insensitive and silly this comment truly is.

I'm sincere about that.

I'm sure you are. But some of us don't change our opinions just because we are on the short end of them.
 
I find it rather annoying that SOOOOOOOOOOO many American's think that most homeless Americans prefer to be homeless.

Like it's a choice with advantages.

I find that rather disingenuous and somewhat offensive.
 
It doesn't seem that everyone who posted in this thread actually took the time to read the NPR link.

Nobody is going to jail. The story has nothing to do with handing a homeless person a sandwich. Nobody is taking food away from the homeless nor taking away their resources. The story is about 2 things:

1. Requiring the kitchens that feed the homeless to be trained in food safety or pay a fine
2. Requiring a specific distance between the facilities that serve food to the homeless - one block, to be precise

The NPR headline was incredibly irresponsible (and not accurate), and lots of posts on here show that people read the headline and ran with it.
 
I have. I've lived in them.

Actually, they have much higher rates of recovery and much less death due to non-treatment.

No, actually they don't, at least to that first, the latter is a matter of healthcare. The UK is finally down to 6% unemployment, but they won't go any lower as, again, folks are paid to live while unemployed.
 
I find it rather annoying that SOOOOOOOOOOO many American's think that most homeless Americans prefer to be homeless.

Like it's a choice with advantages.

I find that rather disingenuous and somewhat offensive.

Other than those who are mentally incompetent as a result of genetics, it is precisely due to the choices those individuals have made that brings them to that place. Btw, the Devil did not make you do it.
 
I don't understand why local governments would hinder private organizations from feeding the homeless or anyone else who might be having a hard time like a senior citizen on a limited income and plagued with unforeseen medical costs and can't simply afford to buy enough food. It's not coming out of the government's pockets to feed these folks. But these local governments seem to be getting away with it through new regulations by either restricting public land, new food safety regulations and attempted relocation of some of these soup kitchens. Here a pdf report from the National Coalition for the Homeless. There you will find a map of all the cities involved in regulating these soup kitchens out of existence. Calilfornia and Florida seem to be the biggest culprits.

http://nationalhomeless.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Food-Sharing2014.pdf
 
Other than those who are mentally incompetent as a result of genetics, it is precisely due to the choices those individuals have made that brings them to that place. Btw, the Devil did not make you do it.

Are you seriously THAT naive???
 
That creeps me out to this day. I remember the first time I saw it. I freaked out.

"It's a cookbook!"

Too late for the guy about to board the saucer. Hmm, cookbook, saucer, sort of goes together. Every so often they have a 24 or 48 hour marathon on the Sci-fi channel showing old Twilight Zone episodes. Well, they use to before Sci-fi went to more of this idiotic reality shows.
 
The sociopathy of some people is just stunning.

"If we just starve them, that'll fix it!"

Right. What if we provided some kind of real help to these people, many of whom are traumatized vets or abandoned teens?

Oh, right, that would involve human empathy.
Where's the tipping point? At what point does empathy begin to do them no favors?
 
The reason they passed these laws is because it embarrasses politicians when they feed the homeless in front of City Hall.
 
Where's the tipping point? At what point does empathy begin to do them no favors?
Radcen, I have been involved in volunteer work involving the homeless. Overwhelmingly the majority of them are mentally unstable. Even when it is freezing cold outside, you can't get many of them to go to the shelter. They will live under the vi-dock in their cardboard houses in below freezing temperatures. We collect blankets, coats, gloves, hats, scarves and simply drop them off in boxes in hope they survive. Some don't.
 
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Radcen, I have been involved in volunteer work involving the homeless. Overwhelmingly the majority of them are mentally unstable. Even when it is freezing cold outside, you can't get many of them to go to the shelter. They will live under the vi-dock in their cardboard houses in below freezing temperatures. We collect blankets, coats, gloves, hats, scarves and simply drop them off in boxes in hope they servive. Some don't.

I too have done this. But there are many more reasons than mental illness. The shelters won't let you drink, do drugs and in some cases won't admit animals. Lot of homeless with pets in Portland these days. They also don't go to shelters because they know they'll likely survive the conditions and this way they retain their autonomy. Folks have all sorts of reasons for refusing charity, or accepting some forms of charity but not others.
 
I too have done this. But there are many more reasons than mental illness. The shelters won't let you drink, do drugs and in some cases won't admit animals. Lot of homeless with pets in Portland these days. They also don't go to shelters because they know they'll likely survive the conditions and this way they retain their autonomy. Folks have all sorts of reasons for refusing charity, or accepting some forms of charity but not others.
I would categorize anyone so strung out on drugs and alcohol not allowing them to make a sound decision to go to the shelter in life threatening temperatures, to be classified as mentally ill. But I never thought about them having pets. Whatever their reasons, you can't get them into the shelters. That's for sure. You can only do what you can do.
 
Radcen, I have been involved in volunteer work involving the homeless. Overwhelmingly the majority of them are mentally unstable. Even when it is freezing cold outside, you can't get many of them to go to the shelter. They will live under the vi-dock in their cardboard houses in below freezing temperatures. We collect blankets, coats, gloves, hats, scarves and simply drop them off in boxes in hope they survive. Some don't.

Greetings, Vesper. :2wave:

Kudos for your caring work, Vesper! *hug* You have a good heart, and I believe Karma sees all. Did you happen to see the story on Yahoo today where a couple of billionaires are getting divorces? The one wife is complaining that she simply cannot live on $40 million a year, and wants more! Bozhe moi! (Slovak for Oh My God!) "If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to." --Dorothy Parker ... hilarious!
 
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