View Poll Results: Anyone Feeding The Homeless Should Be A Crime

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    47 70.15%
  • I have mixed feelings - not sure what to think

    2 2.99%
  • I understand the theory here, but I'm against it

    11 16.42%
  • I agree with limiting who can feed the homeless

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Thread: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

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    Re: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Alcohol is food to you? Alrighty then.
    It's not just my opinion, it's a scietific fact.

    Seriously.

    A six pack of Bud has significant nutrional value.

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    Re: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Pero.

    Thanks for posting this classic! It was just as thought-provoking and frightening as the first time I saw it!

    On another topic: the other day when we were discussing the Buddhist monks and the celebration of "robe-giving," I forgot to ask you something. You indicated you and your wife were the guests of honor. How were you chosen for that honor? I know that you don't like to blow your own horn, but I am curious if you'd like to share.
    We bought the cloth and learned enough Pali to be able to present it to the monks in the original tongue spoken way back then. As far as I know all Buddhist chants are done in Pali, at least the sect of Buddhism we belong to do. It was a matter of learning the rites, being able to respond in the proper fashion and language and not being afraid to do so in front of a large crowd.

    I suppose it was our choice of taking on the responsibility of shall I say, learned lay persons that equated to being the guests of honor. The monks didn't have to do that, it was just something they did.
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    Re: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    We bought the cloth and learned enough Pali to be able to present it to the monks in the original tongue spoken way back then. As far as I know all Buddhist chants are done in Pali, at least the sect of Buddhism we belong to do. It was a matter of learning the rites, being able to respond in the proper fashion and language and not being afraid to do so in front of a large crowd.

    I suppose it was our choice of taking on the responsibility of shall I say, learned lay persons that equated to being the guests of honor. The monks didn't have to do that, it was just something they did.
    Good for you! *hug* It sounds like a lot of time spent getting everything just right - language and all, and the monks understood and appreciated your effort! Kudos to both of you!

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    Re: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    "These people" need to put some work into it themselves. Nobody can do it for them.
    That's really the problem though, just handing out food doesn't teach these people to do anything more than come back tomorrow for more handouts. We're not actually teaching them how to get off the streets, we're just making it easier to stay there. The more uncontrolled food sources they have, the less likely it is that these people can get the help they actually need.
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    Re: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Ever see that old Twilight Zone Episode titled, "To Serve Man?"
    "It's a cookbook! A cookbook!"
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    Re: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

    I'm fine with this as long as it is also illegal to give free food to anyone else. Making this apply only to the homeless violates equal protection under the law.
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    Re: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    They are using the money to buy alcohol not food
    Of course they are. A long time ago, there was this homeless guy begging outside of McDonalds. I offered to buy him a hamburger and he cussed me out, he just wanted money to buy drugs or booze. He went without both from me. They're not hungry and I won't subsidize their habits.
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    Re: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's a pretty good analogy.

    Not that we should just let the homeless be wild, like the bears, but just feeding them does not change their lifestyle. Most of them are suffering from drug addiction and/or some form of mental illness. Simply feeding them is much like putting a bandage on a festering wound. It simply enables them to keep living the way they've been living for a little bit longer.
    How will the mentally ill live otherwise? I mean, what's your solution?

    I just don't see why, if people are willing to be generous, it's a problem to feed the needy, and why they're needy doesn't matter much to me even if what they need is self-respect. (And I want my tax dollars to go toward school breakfasts and lunches.)

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    Re: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
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    : If you also have the one where the man and woman are trying to get out of the empty town, where they take a train to escape but find themselves passing the same buildings in an endless loop, I'd love to rewatch that one too. I won't give away the ending here, in case there are some who haven't seen it!

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    Re: More Cities Are Making It Illegal To Hand Out Food To The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    In other news, the national parks have outlawed feeding bears, as it makes them dependent on human food and unable to fend for themselves.
    While I agree with you when it comes to a government handing out to the homeless, if individuals wish to feed the homeless, it is there right to do so. What kind of government restricts how their citizens can and cannot spend their surplus money and time?
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