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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    It was consensual. Ted Haggard never felt violated. Did you even watch the video?
    I do not care what the video says, what Ted Haggard says, or what anyone says.

    It is not possible for a child to consent to sex.

    They may THINK they consented, even years later, but they did not.
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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I do not care what the video says, what Ted Haggard says, or what anyone says.

    It is not possible for a child to consent to sex.

    They may THINK they consented, even years later, but they did not.
    Do you think it's a coincidence that Ted Haggard was raped and became gay later in life? Do you think the two events are entirely unrelated?

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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    I don't agree with that. That's one heck of a coincidence.
    No it's not. Unless the rapist targeted Haggard *because* he was gay, the probability would be the same as for the population at large - about 5%

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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    No it's not. Unless the rapist targeted Haggard *because* he was gay, the probability would be the same as for the population at large - about 5%
    Can we at least agree that the molester/rapist should get life in prison, or the death penalty? If not, that's fine.

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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Can we at least agree that the molester/rapist should get life in prison, or the death penalty? We can at least agree on that. Right?
    It's you who has to take a position. If it was "consensual and pleasant" so that no harm was done aside from "became gay", you're saying that making someone gay should carry the death sentence. You're saying that alone ruined the kids' life. I'll never agree with that

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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Do you think it's a coincidence that Ted Haggard was raped and became gay later in life? Do you think the two events are entirely unrelated?
    That's unrelated to my point.

    It doesn't matter whether Ted Haggard (whoever that is) did decide he enjoyed being gay because he was raped as a child - there was still no consent involved when he was a child.

    Children CANNOT consent to such.

    Caveat: I will say that it is theoretically possible for a child of that age to be developed enough mentally to consent.
    However we must NEVER legally acknowledge such, because the vast majority of children at that age cannot consent, and there's no sure way to test for consent having occurred, barring some fantastical time machine ****.
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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    It's you who has to take a position.
    I already have. So has "The Mark". I am just asking you to agree with us.

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium
    you're saying that making someone gay should carry the death sentence.
    That is correct. Can we at least agree that the molester/rapist should get life in prison, or the death penalty? Anything beyond 'yes' will sound like a 'no' to me. Do you agree that the molester/rapist should get life in prison, or the death penalty?

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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    there was still no consent involved when he was a child.

    Children CANNOT consent to such.
    I don't disagree with you on this. You got hung up on a detail that had nothing to do with the discussion.

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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    I don't disagree with you on this. You got hung up on a detail that had nothing to do with the discussion.
    Wait...we're discussing whether a male adult molesting a male child does or does not lead to the child realizing they like being gay?
    Or are you saying molestation in such a situation forcibly makes a child gay?

    I'm going to say that only the former is possible.

    However I am nothing even close to a trained mental health professional, so I have no way of knowing one way or another.
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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    I already have. So has "The Mark". I am just asking you to agree with us.



    That is correct. Can we at least agree that the molester/rapist should get life in prison, or the death penalty? Anything beyond 'yes' will sound like a 'no' to me. Do you agree that the molester/rapist should get life in prison, or the death penalty?
    Not according to your own hypothetical no, since being gay isn't the end of the world as you envision. Amazing that you expect those of us who are homosexual and happy with it to agree with you

    Counter example, a man rapes a young girl and she "becomes hetero," should he get life in prison/death penalty?

    This double standard is rather easy to expose, but you're not even denying it so i guess that's the end of it

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