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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Are you saying that you don't understand the situation that I am describing?
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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    If they were not gay because they were molested, does that mean they were molested because they were gay?
    That doesn't make any sense. The two things aren't connected in the least.



    Would you put Ted Haggard in this category?
    I don't know who Ted Haggard is.

    Is he a gay person that was molested?
    If he is gay and he was molested...I think the answer is obvious.

    Is it a total coincidence that he is a gay person and has absolutely nothing to do with his childhood experience?
    Unless you can make a link.

    I'm just saying that if a person has pleasurable male on male gay sex with a little child the child will become gay. That's all I am saying.
    All I really ask is that you prove it.

    This is what I am not saying. I am not saying that all gay people have sex with children. I am not saying that the only gay people are those who were molested as children.
    I can read, thank you.

    I guess the accusation of you think that pedophilia was ok was unfounded, disrespectful and unfair. Let me rephrase it into a question: Do you think it is ok for men to have consensual sex with 7 year old boys if the 7 year old boys are ok with it?
    No.

    If not, would you be thrilled out of your mind if the molested boys learned to enjoy male on male sex as a little child
    No.

    even though it was very likely that they would never be exposed to it otherwise?
    No.

    If not, would you be pissed if the child wasn't molested and never became gay?
    no.

    These are just three really odd questions that you will dodge because you don't want me to destroy your worldview.
    I didn't dodge them. And your hypothetical doesn't really alter my world view.

    Put your fingers in your ears and say, "la la la la. I can't hear you." Don't take those fingers out of your ear because I firmly believe that when a child is sodomized in a pleasurable fashion then he will become gay with 100% certainty.
    Your beliefs are based on a false cause.

    That pisses me off. I bet it doesn't bother you in the least bit. You can ignore this if you want but it does happen to children every single day. They become gay as a result of a predator.
    You have to prove that it occurs. Right now, I am doubtful.
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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    With physical manipulation a negative emotion is impressed on the memory. With psychological manipulation a pleasurable emotion is impressed on the memory. If a child is raped by physical force the victim will hate sex. If a child is raped by psychological force the victim will love sex disproportionately more than normal people.

    They have different outcomes. Neither is acceptable in my opinion. The LGBT movement might disagree. They may say that even though child molestation is bad at least they have one more member in their community to fight the battle against society. The monsters in the LGBT movement are likely to ignore the crime and call it victimless.

    However, most members of the LGBT movement would plug their fingers in their ear so that they could maintain their world view that homosexuality is the most awesome thing.

    Somebody should be punished violently.
    I'm saying that mental manipulation of any sort counts as force in my book, when one party is a child and one an adult.

    IOW, if someone manipulates a child into having sex with them, it is rape. I don't care how they manipulated the child. A child is not mentally formed enough to resist if they wanted to.

    Edit: Additionally, if anyone who could theoretically be tossed into the arbitrary grouping we sometimes call "LGBT" thinks I am wrong about this, **** them.

    And not in the the fun way.

    Anyone at all, actually.
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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Have you ever seen an episode of the Flintstones?
    Yeah.

    You are referring to "...we'll have a gay ol' time" if I am not mistaken at the end of the theme song?

    Here is my answer to that. It isn't culturally relevant in modern times. The cartoon is fifty years old. Words are made up, meanings are changed, some words are even removed completely.

    Language is dynamic, not stagnate. And the meaning of the word has been changed.

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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Most times it is consensual between the child and the perpetrator. I'm not referring to physical rape. I'm referring to psychological manipulation and a pleasurable sexual experience for the perpetrator and the victim. This pleasurable experience will haunt the victim indefinitely. CLAX1911 will keep his fingers in his ears for as long as I continue this discussion.
    Of course that will always be on the victims mind. I never said it wouldn't. I just don't believe that it makes them homosexual. That isn't ignoring, that is starting my belief.

    You don't seem to be a finger in the ears kind of guy. Surely you see how a child can be influenced to enjoy homosexual experiences before he is old enough to make that decision. The person molesting this child should be punished with the most brutal violence humanly possible. That's just my take on the issue.
    My fingers aren't in my ears, I just don't think sexual orientation is that fragile. I think it goes deeper than that.

    You can accuse me of ignoring you. But that is just because you can't prove your hypothesis, and you don't like being questioned in it.
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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Sorry, your video link didn't work.
    Yeah. I don't know why it didn't work.

    w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = H G b n 7 B L n 2 o

    If you take the spaces out of this it will work.

    Ted Haggard Blames Sex Scandal on Child Abuse - YouTube

    Skip to 0:57 .

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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Yeah. I don't know why it didn't work.

    w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = H G b n 7 B L n 2 o

    If you take the spaces out of this it will work.

    Ted Haggard Blames Sex Scandal on Child Abuse - YouTube

    Skip to 0:57 .
    I am sorry I still don't see how anecdotal testimony from one man who was caught in a sex scandal means your claim is correct.
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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    If they were not gay because they were molested, does that mean they were molested because they were gay?



    Would you put Ted Haggard in this category? Is he a gay person that was molested? Is it a total coincidence that he is a gay person and has absolutely nothing to do with his childhood experience?

    I'm just saying that if a person has pleasurable male on male gay sex with a little child the child will become gay. That's all I am saying.

    This is what I am not saying. I am not saying that all gay people have sex with children. I am not saying that the only gay people are those who were molested as children.

    I guess the accusation of you think that pedophilia was ok was unfounded, disrespectful and unfair. Let me rephrase it into a question: Do you think it is ok for men to have consensual sex with 7 year old boys if the 7 year old boys are ok with it? If not, would you be thrilled out of your mind if the molested boys learned to enjoy male on male sex as a little child even though it was very likely that they would never be exposed to it otherwise? If not, would you be pissed if the child wasn't molested and never became gay?

    These are just three really odd questions that you will dodge because you don't want me to destroy your worldview. Put your fingers in your ears and say, "la la la la. I can't hear you." Don't take those fingers out of your ear because I firmly believe that when a child is sodomized in a pleasurable fashion then he will become gay with 100% certainty. That pisses me off. I bet it doesn't bother you in the least bit. You can ignore this if you want but it does happen to children every single day. They become gay as a result of a predator.
    I don't really think there's a way to sodomize a child that's pleasurable for the child. Interesting hypothesis. Does it cut both ways, if a girl who would be a lesbian has her first pleasurable sexual encounter as a child with a man, does that mean she'll be straight?
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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't really think there's a way to sodomize a child that's pleasurable for the child. Interesting hypothesis. Does it cut both ways, if a girl who would be a lesbian has her first pleasurable sexual encounter as a child with a man, does that mean she'll be straight?
    Just no, no , no, and no. No one is gay because they were molested as a child.
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    Re: In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Just no, no , no, and no. No one is gay because they were molested as a child.
    For the most part, I don't think so either, although I'm not sure we can say it's never happened. I've heard of women who have been badly abused by men turning to other women for a relationship since they, understandably cannot trust men.

    I'm will say that I'm pretty well convinced that nobody in the LGBT community or any community would actually be pleased that a child has been "turned gay" by a pedo.
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