View Poll Results: Do Governments Restrict Freedom or Provide It?

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  • I lean right and govt restricts freedom.

    23 58.97%
  • I lean left and govt restricts freedom.

    11 28.21%
  • I lean right and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    3 7.69%
  • I lean left and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    0 0%
  • I am not American and govt restricts freedom.

    0 0%
  • I am not American and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    2 5.13%
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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    They can do both. Was the government creating the interstate road system a "restriction of freedom"? No. It expanded freedom, the freedom to travel.
    Was the espionage act in WW1 a restriction of freedom? Absolutely.


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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its quite complicated, not just historically but even in theory.
    Those questions were not at all complicated...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Every law passed is a meditation. Every court case is a meditation. Every law that's followed because of threat of involvement is meditation. Etc.
    I wasn't asking you for examples of mediation. Please see my question again.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Those questions were not at all complicated...
    You dont see how balancing the at time diametrically opposed interests of various groups can be complicated?

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Are the States subjects of the Federal government, or was it created the other way around?
    At one time it was the other way around, on certain matters-like marriage for example.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Both

    The government both restricts freedom but it also enables freedom for many. What I mean by that is if we had no governing powers I suspect that few people would have the freedoms or the ability to express said freedom. Instead government would simply be replaced by the few who had the power to subjugate those with lesser abilities and conforming those people to their will. I suspect such a system would probably be very suppressive.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Greetings pg. I'm really disappointed in the direction of the country. At this point, there appears to be a real dichotomy within our nation, and I'm not sure how much longer that can last...
    For some reason, our rule of law has been put aside in favor of something else. We have been successful as a nation because we are a nation of laws that are supposed to apply to everyone equally. That has become perverted because of an "elite" class that feel they can exempt themselves from laws they pass. I suppose that others now feel that they can do the same thing, which is causing problems. This cannot continue for long, IMO. If we could go back to the days of "Do all you have agreed to do if humanly possible," this would eliminate lying, deceit, and treachery; and "do not encroach on other persons or their property," which would eliminate all the other problems we face. Too simple? Probably. :

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    We always like to say that we would have less freedom sans government.


    This is not an accurate statement. We are a pack animal. When a group of us are together, we naturally form a system of leadership...a government. What I mean to say is, you get a group of humans together that is large enough, and no matter what you do, they will form some type of government, some type of hierarchy.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    We always like to say that we would have less freedom sans government.


    This is not an accurate statement. We are a pack animal. When a group of us are together, we naturally form a system of leadership...a government. What I mean to say is, you get a group of humans together that is large enough, and no matter what you do, they will form some type of government, some type of hierarchy.
    Of course they will, from the smallest groups who form a gang, or band, up to tribes, and then peoples/cultures/nations.
    Theres a reason the first animals domesticated by man were dogs-because we are both pack animals and understand each other.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Of course they will, from the smallest groups who form a gang, or band, up to tribes, and then peoples/cultures/nations.
    Theres a reason the first animals domesticated by man were dogs-because we are both pack animals and understand each other.
    Well, that and dogs are smarter than cats. Cats failed to see the benefit, so, didn't hang around long enough to get properly domesticated. And now look. The big cats are mostly all endangered, and house cats are the province of lonely women.


    On a serious note, though, I think that understanding that NO government is pretty much impossible helps to bring more clarity to this question. Making NO government impossible, this question is either EXTREMELY depressing, are modestly uplifting.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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