View Poll Results: Do Governments Restrict Freedom or Provide It?

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  • I lean right and govt restricts freedom.

    23 58.97%
  • I lean left and govt restricts freedom.

    11 28.21%
  • I lean right and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    3 7.69%
  • I lean left and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    0 0%
  • I am not American and govt restricts freedom.

    0 0%
  • I am not American and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    2 5.13%
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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Freedoms/rights aren't absolute for the good of the many and general public order. Government restriction is necessary to ensure this and protect the rights of all citizens.

    Your rights end where another's begin.
    Very well but the question was "Do govts restrict or provide freedom".

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    I can't answer the poll as worded.


    The real true answer is yes and no. Gov't restricts freedom obviously, but here's the thing: Just the RIGHT amount of government, no more and no less, actually makes for more real useable freedom than does anarchy.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Do you believe that a govt has in its best interests a state without said "victims"? And what about those who are restrained to "help" those "victims"?
    government is run by people, and people always work in their own interest...its human nature.

    our government was constructed to contain the self centered nature of people, from violating the rights of the people.

    that structure of government [republican form] created by the founders no longer exist.... in state government as well as federal, democracy has taken hold in america and destroying it.

    the reason the founders hated democracy is because it is ALWAYS at war with individual liberty.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Try to be more nuanced. Im not saying there is not a legitimate and necessary role of govt.-Im saying that all it can do is restrict.
    Again, to restrict is to grant the freedom of restriction, and to not restrict is to restrict the freedom to restrict. You could go in circles all day.

    Rules restrict by definition, and rules are necessary for any form of organization by definition, because organization needs structure to exist, and structure needs rules to exist. It really isn't any more nuanced than that, and it isn't where the conservative/liberal differences are, unless by conservative you really mean anarchist, which is doubtful.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Actually the role of government is to secure the rights of its people under which it was created. Key word being "under"...
    It cannot do that without imposing restrictions via legislation.
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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Actually the role of government is to secure the rights of its people under which it was created. Key word being "under"...
    correct.....

    to secure the rights of the people...that is the end of government.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Very well but the question was "Do govts restrict or provide freedom".
    They don't provide them, they protect rights/freedoms that are inherently ours. And of course they restrict them within reason.
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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It cannot do that without imposing restrictions via legislation.
    Our entire federal government was initially set up with no laws in place, and, as what usually happens, it keeps granting itself powers far beyond what was intended by those under which it was created...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    Again, to restrict is to grant the freedom of restriction, and to not restrict is to restrict the freedom to restrict. You could go in circles all day.

    Rules restrict by definition, and rules are necessary for any form of organization by definition, because organization needs structure to exist, and structure needs rules to exist. It really isn't any more nuanced than that, and it isn't where the conservative/liberal differences are, unless by conservative you really mean anarchist, which is doubtful.
    It sounds like you are saying that govts can only restrict.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It cannot do that without imposing restrictions via legislation.
    Agreed.

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