View Poll Results: Do Governments Restrict Freedom or Provide It?

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  • I lean right and govt restricts freedom.

    23 58.97%
  • I lean left and govt restricts freedom.

    11 28.21%
  • I lean right and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    3 7.69%
  • I lean left and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    0 0%
  • I am not American and govt restricts freedom.

    0 0%
  • I am not American and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    2 5.13%
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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So? Why does that matter?
    Yes... Because this is a legal argument....




    So if a common thief stole your property and threw money at you everything about that situation would be fine with you? Interesting.
    If a thief stole, lets say here, a pair of chair of mine, they in now way "restricted my freedom". They took a chair, not my "freedom". Or lets put it into a better perspective. Since this argument seems to be put in the lense of private property. Is it against someones freedom to be not allowed to own 100% of land in a state?


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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    The way I look at it, you live by God's "Ten Commandments." That covers most crimes that shouldn't be committed. And the first ten Amendments to the Constitution better known as the Bill of Rights. That's all you need.

    Freedom has to do with freedom of choice along it doesn't infringe on Gods Ten Commandments.

    Here on the "left coast" aka Mexifornia, Peoples Republic of California, or formerly known as just California the land of fruits and nuts, over the past few decades the progressive liberal state legislature, you know them, liberal elitist who say "Do as I say not as I do." have stripped Americans of personal freedoms, the freedom of choice.

    I think California is rated # 4. as the least free state in the Union. N.Y. being #1 and N.J. as #2.

    Political correctness is a direct attack on personal freedoms.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Actually it means everything. You said the government can expand people freedom, but stealing peoples land doesn't increase freedom. If the government were to build something on that land all they did was rob someone of their freedom to benefit other people. At best they moved freedom from place A to place B by the use of theft.
    You see here, they didnt "rob" anyone. They were given money, and if they believe the land was unfarily compensated, or i they believe the ammont is not reasonable they have every right to sue the government.


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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You see here, they didnt "rob" anyone. They were given money, and if they believe the land was unfarily compensated, or i they believe the ammont is not reasonable they have every right to sue the government.
    So to you if I give you money for something that you own your consent to give it to me doesn't matter? Why do you think the amount of money actually matters here? Does that change the consent picture for some reason? If I have no willingness to give you the property in question why do you think the amount of money you give me would matter?
    Last edited by Henrin; 10-22-14 at 12:57 AM.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    In the broadest sense, government is the saving grace of mankind's insatiable desire to be ruinous. It brings order to chaos. It restricts mankind's original sin by providing freedom to the many (and the few) who would thus otherwise live in chaos and despair.
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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ever hear of Berman v. Parker? How about Kelo v. New Orleans? Berman v. Parker?
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    But hey, if you disagree with the establishment of the interstate highway system, feel free not to drive on em...
    I was around when Esienhower proposed building the Interstate Highway system and know why it was built. The same reason Hitler built the autobahn highways in Germany. That how Esienhower came up with the idea.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by apacherat View Post
    freedom has to do with freedom of choice along it doesn't infringe on gods ten commandments.
    whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttt tttttttt???????????????????????????????????

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    The government does not provide freedom ... it defines it. It establishes the parameters within which you can exercise your freedom.

    And, as the nature of government everywhere, it continually chips away at the freedom, trying to increase its power.

    Thus, the constant collision between the government and the citizenry.
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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I was around when Esienhower proposed building the Interstate Highway system and know why it was built. The same reason Hitler built the autobahn highways in Germany. That how Esienhower came up with the idea.
    lolololol

    Interstate travel is not a fascist idea my boy.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So. Do you have any point at all?
    Sure do, your not old enough to remember but we use to have more personal freedoms forty years ago than we have today.

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