View Poll Results: Do Governments Restrict Freedom or Provide It?

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  • I lean right and govt restricts freedom.

    23 58.97%
  • I lean left and govt restricts freedom.

    11 28.21%
  • I lean right and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    3 7.69%
  • I lean left and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    0 0%
  • I am not American and govt restricts freedom.

    0 0%
  • I am not American and govt does NOT restrict freedom.

    2 5.13%
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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Under the Constitution the only roads that the federal government can build are postal roads and roads for national defense.
    Nope. For public use, and if land was taken away from private property they must be justly compensated.


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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Never heard of common law?
    Vattel's "The Law of Nations" aka "Natural Law" over rides English Common Law. Well that's what the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Jay said.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Never heard of common law?
    And? A govt still took peoples land.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Never heard of common law?
    Is that something that is supposed to matter to my argument? Did they use eminent domain to take land or not? Did people lose their property to build the interstate road system? Yes or No?

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    It does both. In some areas it restricts freedom. However, when I strap on a pack and hit the trail in a federal wilderness the government is granting me the ultimate freedom.
    "You're the only person that decides how far you'll go and what you're capable of." - Ben Saunders (Explorer and Endurance Athlete)

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    It does both. In some areas it restricts freedom. However, when I strap on a pack and hit the trail in a federal wilderness the government is granting me the ultimate freedom.
    So how did they acquire all that land called public parks?

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Nope. For public use, and if land was taken away from private property they must be justly compensated.
    So does the government allow people to refuse to give up their land or do they just force them to give it up and then throw money at them? Taking my land to give yourself a road is pretty ****ed up.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So how did they acquire all that land called public parks?
    A variety of ways. Sometimes it was land that was left over after settlement. Sometimes it was land that was given to the public sector on the condition it be maintained as a park. Sometimes it was purchased.

    The point in my previous post is that its a gray area. You can't just make a blanket statement that the government restricts freedom or the government provides freedom. Its like asking a parent do you provide your children with discipline or do you provide them with love. The government does both. The world is not all black and white, cut and dry, get used to it.
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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Nope. For public use, and if land was taken away from private property they must be justly compensated.
    The government did, for the common defense of the nation.

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    Re: Do governments restrict freedom or provide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Vattel's "The Law of Nations" aka "Natural Law" over rides English Common Law. Well that's what the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Jay said.
    Ever hear of Berman v. Parker? How about Kelo v. New Orleans? Berman v. Parker?
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    But hey, if you disagree with the establishment of the interstate highway system, feel free not to drive on em...


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