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    Is "good government" even possible?

    Is "good government" even possible?

    I'm going to purposely leave the question open to interpretation.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Is "good government" even possible?

    It hasn't been shown to be possible, so I'm going to go with no based on historical evidence.

    Anyway, why is the poll not public?

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    Re: Is "good government" even possible?

    Yes, but I purposely avoided giving any policy specifics prior to my election.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Is "good government" even possible?

    No, due to the age-old wisdom of "power corrupting". However, government is necessary for national defense (NOT world defense), regulating (NOT micromanaging) commerce, etc. Thus, it is imperative that the power of government be limited as much as possible. This is sadly forgotten by those in power and newly remembered by those out, but of course the sides switch periodically. We are therefore left with the absurdities of the present day, with ever more tenuous parsing to justify injustice and playing the victim to exert power.

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    Re: Is "good government" even possible?

    Depends on what you think the responsibility and duties of government are.


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    Re: Is "good government" even possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is "good government" even possible?

    I'm going to purposely leave the question open to interpretation.

    I say yes assuming all sorts of restrictions on government are put into place to combat corruption. Term limits, waiting periods between different elected and appointed offices, letting computers draw precinct maps based on population alone, A ban on tax dollars being used to aid in campaigning(meaning if an elected or appointed official wishes to campaign for himself or others then the money must come out of that elected official's pocket.If he wants to bring secret service/security, aids and other people with him then that elected official must pay for those himself), severe restrictions on how much individuals and groups may donate to candidates and PACs, a ban on elected officials and their loved ones from having any investments, a ban on elected or appointed officials making any money other than their salary for their office pays, elected officials must pay for things out of their own pockets, and etc.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Is "good government" even possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I say yes assuming all sorts of restrictions on government are put into place to combat corruption.
    When has that ever worked? Name just one government in history that was controlled in any sort of successful manner?

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    Re: Is "good government" even possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is "good government" even possible?

    I'm going to purposely leave the question open to interpretation.
    That depends on one's definition of good government. Today it seems whether or not the political ideology is achieved by one party or the other represents good government. I don't buy that.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is "good government" even possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is "good government" even possible?

    I'm going to purposely leave the question open to interpretation.


    Almost any general form of government can be "good", that is to say it can govern well, if:

    1. Authority and responsibility (accountability) are equal and coordinate.... and the consequences (of corrupt or inept use of authority) are preferably applied immediately!

    2. If power is limited to that which is truly necessary, and not one whit more.

    3. There must of course be an independent means of enforcing the accountability of 1 and the limits of 2.

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    Re: Is "good government" even possible?

    Unfortunately, it can only be as good as its people, because imperfect people run it.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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