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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So question as a lay person. If Gender Dysphoria can be diagnosed, but isn't a a "mental disorder", what would it be diagnosed as?
    "Not my problem". Seriously though, who cares what it is. It could be a mental disorder or something else, it doesn't change the fact that it's largely none of our business. It doesn't effect other folk, or infringe upon the rights of others. If some dude thinks he'd be happier as a chick and wants to take drugs and cut off bits and pieces, then that's his prerogative.
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    "Not my problem". Seriously though, who cares what it is. It could be a mental disorder or something else, it doesn't change the fact that it's largely none of our business. It doesn't effect other folk, or infringe upon the rights of others. If some dude thinks he'd be happier as a chick and wants to take drugs and cut off bits and pieces, then that's his prerogative.
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Why can't or aren't we allowed to compare transgenderism to the animal kingdom though? I mean what truly happens in nature when an animal (which is exactly what we are), attempts to be the opposite sex and or for whatever reason begins mutilating its reproductive parts? How long does that wolf, that bear, that fox, how long does that animal truly last in the natural order of nature? Why do we have to lie and say that this is somehow "in line with nature" when we all know in nature such "sick" or whatever you wanna call them animals do not last and are usually sectioned off and removed by their predators relatively quickly.

    I mean how long does a wolf that rips its privates out or attempts to mate with other male wolves truly last? 5 days? 2 days? 5 hours?


    Why aren't we allowed to have an actual comparison to the natural world on this topic, if, as is argued, "It's none of our business" and "perfectly normal" when in the rest of the animal kingdom (where we come from) we all know this is dealt with very harshly by our fellow organisms?

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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Why can't or aren't we allowed to compare transgenderism to the animal kingdom though? I mean what truly happens in nature when an animal (which is exactly what we are), attempts to be the opposite sex and or for whatever reason begins mutilating its reproductive parts? How long does that wolf, that bear, that fox, how long does that animal truly last in the natural order of nature? Why do we have to lie and say that this is somehow "in line with nature" when we all know in nature such "sick" or whatever you wanna call them animals do not last and are usually sectioned off and removed by their predators relatively quickly.

    I mean how long does a wolf that rips its privates out or attempts to mate with other male wolves truly last? 5 days? 2 days? 5 hours?


    Why aren't we allowed to have an actual comparison to the natural world on this topic, if, as is argued, "It's none of our business" and "perfectly normal" when in the rest of the animal kingdom (where we come from) we all know this is dealt with very harshly by our fellow organisms?
    As usual, your post makes no sense and is irrelevant to the topic at hand. Unless you can demonstrate that wolves, for example, struggle with a differentiation between sexual dimorphism in the brain and anatomy as humans do, your comments are invalid. Also, we know that for most animals, responses to instinct are most common, whereas humans have a higher level of brain functioning.
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    People on the internet voting in polls will never solve this or any other of life's problems which they know little about.

    But I'll be mighty surprised if they ever wake up and start evaluating things that they know at least a little about.




    Why does anyone waste their time posting this kind of BS which accomplishes nothing?

    Generally speaking I support free speech, but if BS like this was banned you wouldn't hear many protests from me.




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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Inspired by another thread I offer this.

    "Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder."

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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    YOU can say what you want. That doesn't make it valid.
    I don't think there's anything embarrassing about treating it as a disorder. If I have ADHD and take Ritilin, or if I am transgender and take a drug for that, it doesn't seem different. If I have high cholesterol and take a statin. I don't see what the big deal is in calling it a disorder. The surgery to me is like any plastic surgery, it's to satisfy the individual involved. It's not exactly like a bad nose, but it provides the recipient some emotional satisfaction that they have corrected something. Like men's and women's clothing is a matter of culture and style, we don't wear the same clothes but we could. It's an identity thing.
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    People on the internet voting in polls will never solve this or any other of life's problems which they know little about.

    But I'll be mighty surprised if they ever wake up and start evaluating things that they know at least a little about.




    Why does anyone waste their time posting this kind of BS which accomplishes nothing?

    Generally speaking I support free speech, but if BS like this was banned you wouldn't hear many protests from me.




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    There's our Authoritarian European right on time to tell us how we should all be silenced in the name of freedom.

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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    There's our Authoritarian European right on time to tell us how we should all be silenced in the name of freedom.


    I don't support silencing anyone, but I do support ignoring their time-wasting BS.




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