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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Do you think that ADD (having attention issues) is a Disorder but that a man thinking he is a woman is not a Disorder?
    Apparently Alyssa does not want to answer the question...
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Inspired by another thread I offer this.

    "Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder."

    Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is
    Time to broaden the mind, people. There's one thing that people have in common, and that's that they are all DIFFERENT - sorta like the only constant is change, y'know? Just because someone is different doesn't mean that he or she is 'defective' or has a 'mental disorder'. I am a strong Christian...but I also know that if the old saw, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" was really in accordance to His will, He would never have allowed naturally-born hermaphrodites to be born. I've heard the counter-argument that natural hermaphrodites are so incredibly rare that it doesn't make any difference, but my point is that if God allowed even one hermaphrodite to be naturally born, then it cannot be just "Adam and Eve".

    We've all got things we'd like to change. Personally, I've got a moderate case of face blindness - and it sucks, and can be really, truly embarrassing. It can't be fixed at all, apparently. But at least with transgenderism, something CAN be done, so why not do something about it?
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Time to broaden the mind, people. There's one thing that people have in common, and that's that they are all DIFFERENT - sorta like the only constant is change, y'know? Just because someone is different doesn't mean that he or she is 'defective' or has a 'mental disorder'. I am a strong Christian...but I also know that if the old saw, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" was really in accordance to His will, He would never have allowed naturally-born hermaphrodites to be born. I've heard the counter-argument that natural hermaphrodites are so incredibly rare that it doesn't make any difference, but my point is that if God allowed even one hermaphrodite to be naturally born, then it cannot be just "Adam and Eve".

    We've all got things we'd like to change. Personally, I've got a moderate case of face blindness - and it sucks, and can be really, truly embarrassing. It can't be fixed at all, apparently. But at least with transgenderism, something CAN be done, so why not do something about it?
    It is not like people are making up Disorders because some people really have them. Fact. Does transgendered apply, that is a valid question. I say it is a Disorder.
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    If it's not a disorder, then gender reassignment surgery is simply a cosmetic choice and should not be classed as medical treatment and not be taxpayer funded.
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    If it's not a disorder, then gender reassignment surgery is simply a cosmetic choice and should not be classed as medical treatment and not be taxpayer funded.
    As in understand it, it's a disorder of sorts, and the "fix" depends on the decisions of the specific person - some might go for reassignment surgery, some might just be content with hormonal treatments, and some might not want to do anything for some reason...

    Or....something like that.
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is not like people are making up Disorders because some people really have them. Fact. Does transgendered apply, that is a valid question. I say it is a Disorder.
    I would say that if the person himself or herself strongly feels that it is, then it is. If not, then it probably isn't.
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I would say that if the person himself or herself strongly feels that it is, then it is. If not, then it probably isn't.
    Do you mean the transgendered person or the person viewing them?
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Do you mean the transgendered person or the person viewing them?
    I'm wondering if it's even possible to be sure how correct the opinion of either is.

    But since one of them lives in the body in question, I presume we are giving them the upper hand in that comparison.
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm wondering if it's even possible to be sure how correct the opinion of either is.

    But since one of them lives in the body in question, I presume we are giving them the upper hand in that comparison.
    That is my understanding of his statement as well...
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    Re: transgender a mental disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Seems like the argument is over whether the state of being transgendered is a result of:
    A mental problem which can be "fixed" - as in, make a transgendered person no longer transgendered by convincing them/their brain they're the same sex as their body...

    Or a mental disconnect from the sex of their body which can be "fixed" - as in, changing their body to match who they/their brain thinks they are.



    Or...something like that? I'm probably not even using the terms right...

    For that matter, that kinda brings up a discussion about how much of our "self/being/sense of who we are" is biological and dictated by chemicals in our brain/body...


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