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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is completely invalid disinformation. Firstly, anything by Family Research Council is automatically invalid, as they are well known for lying with any information they present. Secondly, all research demonstrates that heterosexual men are the vast majority of folks who molest boys. Apparently you are one who is uneducated on sexuality and doesn't understand that one's attraction to children has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation. The former is a disorder; the latter is not. Men who molest boys are overwhelmingly heterosexuals.
    I see a massive issue with prejudice and intolerance.

    How can anyone really believe the psychiatric industry? They said homosexuality was a mental illness a few decades ago, and now they don't.

    The APA (a highly political orgainzation) that constantly changes its DSM-whatever it is now, series, tried to get away with saying that Pedophilia was a behavioral disorder! HA. But quickly changed their tune after complaints.

    Leftists that run the psychiatric business in the West are members of an occult science---perhaps only one step above Bigfoot hunters.

    And by the very definitions of words---all men who rape or have consentual sex with boys are homosexuals. If you don't like what words mean, then create new ones.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You seem to be assuming that male pedophiles who molest boys are attracted to them because they are male. However, is it not possible they are primarily attracted to them because they are children and most such men may either not be attracted to adults or are attracted to women and not grown men?

    Why would we assume that just because an older male molests a younger male that they are homosexual?

    What percentage of male pedophiles who molest boys identify as heterosexual and engage in sexual relationships with women?

    What about men who molest both boys and girls? Would you include their numbers with men who molest just boys? Would those men be considered bisexual? What if they have no attraction to adults or are primarily attracted to women?

    And what about a man who only sleeps with other men but also molests young girls? Is he to be considered heterosexual?

    Before we can speculate on whether gay men are more likely to molest children, we need to determine whether men who molest boys are actually gay.
    Definition of Homosexual:


    1

    : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex


    2

    : of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

    The word is what the word is. A male having sexual relations---rape or otherwise---has commited a homosexual act. A male man desiring to have sex with a boy is still a homosexual.

    I'll go by what the traditional meaning and understanding of what homosexaulity is----not a white-washed, feel-good, new age, Orwellian understanding of what you think it should be.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    And by the very definitions of words---all men who rape or have consentual sex with boys are homosexuals. If you don't like what words mean, then create new ones.
    Many men are sodomized by male security-service personnel around the world or as prisoners of war. The purpose here is humiliation, not homosexual gratification.


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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    First off, the upper age is 13 for pedophilia, a minor point to be sure. Unless you are going by the legal definition and not the medical definition, then no, not all pedophiles rape children. That is the whole point of the current movement. To get help for those who have the disorder before they harm a child. Are you saying that someone who has kleptomania should be jailed for theft (of both hands cut off if you want to get old world) before they ever steal something?
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    There is no real medical cure for pedophilia. I'll go by a what a common man in a jury would believe a young child, per-pubrety, would be. Just to be safe, 12 and under.

    Pedophiles continue to rape children at a rate up to 50 percent---about the fatality rate of Ebola viruses. Imprisonment and psychotherapy are failed therapies. The only sure way to treat pedophila "disorders-HA" is by capital punishment.
    http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsle...out-pedophilia

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    It is indeed the case of the two being separate. Granted that most times, if the crime is actually committed, then the disorder is present. However, just like male on male rape can occur with the perpetrator having no sexual attraction to the gender of the victim, so too might an individual rape a child with no sexual attraction to them. Legally the perpetrator has committed pedophilia, but is not actually a pedophile since (s)he is not actually sexually attracted to children.
    To me this is unnecessary complication and/or slicing hair compared to what I stated.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    To me this is unnecessary complication and/or slicing hair compared to what I stated.
    D - It is called "splitting hairs" in English


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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Many men are sodomized by male security-service personnel around the world or as prisoners of war. The purpose here is humiliation, not homosexual gratification.
    They are still homosexuals---as they commit homosexual acts.

    Please come up with a new word fit your political agenda.

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Pedo is a disorder. Like alcoholism is a dieses. Total BS.

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    D - It is called "splitting hairs" in English
    Thanks for the corrections Simplex
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    I am only stating the facts---and the facts are that most pedophiles are not homosexuals, but that homosexuals commit acts of pedophilia far outside their statistical population.
    Basis for this?

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