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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    All pedophiles that rape young children, especially 12 and under, may have various mental or personaility disorders, but all are criminals---and all should be put to death ASAP.

    Another thing to remember is that 2/3 rds of pedophile victims are girls---as men are responsible for virtually all acts of pedophilia. However, all men (or transexuals) who rape boys are by the very definition of the word, homosexuals.

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    Homosexual apologists admit that some homosexuals sexually molest children, but they deny that homosexuals are more likely to commit such offenses. After all, they argue, the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, this argument ignores the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population.

    The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse: 1) men are almost always the perpetrator; 2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys; 3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.

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    This is completely invalid disinformation. Firstly, anything by Family Research Council is automatically invalid, as they are well known for lying with any information they present. Secondly, all research demonstrates that heterosexual men are the vast majority of folks who molest boys. Apparently you are one who is uneducated on sexuality and doesn't understand that one's attraction to children has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation. The former is a disorder; the latter is not. Men who molest boys are overwhelmingly heterosexuals.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I would agree with this, but now I'm going to play Devil's Advocate and extend the question a bit?

    Would creating/sharing/obtaining "kiddie porn" that is either animated or portrayed by adults made up to look like kids... in other words, no actual children were used at all... qualify as acting on it?
    I do not believe that what you presented would be "acting on" pedophilia. No children were harmed.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    That would make the sexually attracted to the same sex---If they commit some sexual act.
    No. It would make them attracted to CHILDREN of the same sex. Has nothing to do with which gender of adult they are attracted to (most likely female).
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Let's no confuse the issue with wiggle words:

    mo·lest
    verb \mə-ˈlest\

    : to harm (someone) through sexual contact : to touch (someone) in a sexual and improper way

    : to bother or annoy (someone or something)


    ho·mo·sex·u·al
    adjective \ˌhō-mə-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -ˈsek-shəl\

    : sexually attracted to people of the same sex

    : based on or showing a sexual attraction to people of the same sex


    pe·do·phil·ia
    noun \ˌpe-də-ˈfi-lē-ə, ˌpē-\

    : sexual feelings or activities that involve children

    : sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object

    If you pick the real meaning of each word, then all men who molest boys are both pedophiles and homosexuals.

    Knowing the basic meaning of want you are saying is logical.
    No, sexual orientation has nothing to do with pedophilia. One's sexual orientation is in regards to the ADULT gender that one is attracted to. Children are not part of that equation. Research consistently shows that males who molest boys are overwhelmingly HETEROSEXUALS. You don't seem to understand that attraction to adults and attraction to children in this case is mutually exclusive.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/op...rime.html?_r=0

    I had no idea there was support group for pedophiles who don't act on their urges. This article states that according to some MRI's these men were born this way. A push to call it a disorder rather than a crime.What are your thoughts?

    ETA- for the grammar nazis, autocorrect misspelled pedo in my title
    Yes, it is a disorder and people should try to find help before they become criminals. When they become criminals the disorder status should not shield them from prosecution but make it even worse. In my country these pedo's would get maybe a shorter prison sentence but then a long stay in a mental health institute which would be able to keep them locked up until they feel he/she no longer is a danger to others and can be trusted slowly back into society. If the doctors are not convinced then the temporary "at the bequest of the government" will turn in to "in a mental institution until death", no further trial needed.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Of course it's a disorder if you want to do it.

    It's a disorder AND a crime if you actually try to/do it.

    Sounds like shrinks with too much time on their hands.

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    The options hint that pedophilia can either be a disorder or a crime. That is not the case. It is a disorder if they do not offend a child. Once they do then they are not above the law and will face penalties when caught.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/op...rime.html?_r=0

    I had no idea there was support group for pedophiles who don't act on their urges. This article states that according to some MRI's these men were born this way. A push to call it a disorder rather than a crime.What are your thoughts?

    ETA- for the grammar nazis, autocorrect misspelled pedo in my title
    It depends on what is meant by disorder. Historically age of consent laws have been at least as early as 7 years of age in our culture and even now marriages in some countries can be performed at ages our present legal system considers pedophile.

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    The options hint that pedophilia can either be a disorder or a crime. That is not the case. It is a disorder if they do not offend a child. Once they do then they are not above the law and will face penalties when caught.
    It can also be perfectly legal, as it seems to have been in Delaware in 1895, where according to the New York Times the age of consent seems to have been 7.

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    So if it is all beyond a person's control I.e. an imbalance in their brain, I suspect that there are various ways to rid ourselves of this pervasive problem. But, if a medical solution is not found, then a purely physical one could be used as a stronger deterrent.

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