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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Again, it matters to me not if the pedophile was a man, a woman, a homosexual, a bisexual, a transgender or space alien----all should be hanged in the same manner. However, the added "badness" of a homosexual act makes the crime more henious. Gernerally a male on boy rape would be more traumatic and invasive than a woman on girl rape. Usually if a female is part of an act of pedophilia---she is just a willing partner in the crime.
    Wow! just when I though you couldn't get any lower, you turn out to be a sexist too. I suppose women who get raped when they were wearing "sexy" clothes really wanted it, too.

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    ANY male on boy sexual act would automatically make the aggressor a homosexual.
    Aside from your lack of comprehension of the difference between an act and an attraction, your logic fails in that the vast majority of male pedophiles are straight, i.e having sexual relations and attractions to adult women. Thus at best, engaging in the act with a boy would make them bisexuals, not homosexuals. But heaven forbid you should let facts ruin your fantasy.

    Let's look at another example between the act and the desire. A common event nowadays are "women-less weddings" and "women-less fashion shows", events when men dress in drag as part of a charity fund raiser. My father has participated in a few of these, with others from his church no less. These men have no desire to dress in women's clothing (although obviously they have no repulsion from it or at least override it for the greater good), yet they engage in the act of dressing in women's clothing. While they are cross-dressing, they are not Cross-Dressers. So it is with sexuality. The act is not automatically linked with the attraction. One can physically act against their attraction.

    Or we can look at something more mundane. I am a truck driver. I hold the CDL and everything. Even when I am not in the cab of a truck, I am a truck driver. Now you can hop on up in the cab of my truck and drive it around, maybe even manage not to damage anyone or any thing in the process. All that means is that you have driven a truck, not that you are a truck driver. While what a person is and what they do are usually linked, it is not an automatic linkage.

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    Maybe no one in this forum may be saying they don't want pedophilia decriminalized, however, there are many out there that do:

    ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Greek disability groups expressed anger Monday at a government decision to expand a list of state-recognized disability categories to include pedophiles, exhibitionists and kleptomaniacs

    Furor in Greece over pedophilia as a disability
    While I do have problems with their overall disability payout system (an item for a different forum and thread), at no point did I see anything in that article that they were removing the crimes and penalties of acting upon those disabilities. So a pedophile who actually assaulted a child would still be subject to criminal penalties, as would a kleptomaniac who actually steals something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    An honest person will seek help first.
    An honest pedophile who has not acted typically meets with hatred, scorn, and even assault. With that kind of track record, why would a person admit that they have these feelings? Ideally, when they ask for help they are treated with compassion and aid. Such has not been reality and that is why B4UAct was formed.

    Commit just one act of raping a child and give them the rope. That is the best cure for preventing more pedophillic acts. I support the same treatment for all repeat violent offenders---at least for those who have had at least two trips through the prison system for prior violent convictions.
    The lack of comprehension here is phenomenal. At best you are only preventing acts by that one person. The best cure is to be able to identify these people before they act and get them help.

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    However, I happen to be more replused at the idea of a man raping a boy, aside from the rare cases of a woman raping someone of either sex. But that's just me.
    Wait! so now you are more repulsed by a woman raping anyone than a man raping a boy? Oh you get get better and better!
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    What research? I don't see anything.

    What percent of pedophiles rape boys?

    Know that all men who rape boys are commiting homosexual acts---and are therefore homosexuals and/or bisexuals.
    I already posted research that destroyed your position. Easily and with little effort.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Your defense of the APA is as humorous as the APA itself.

    The APA and the Psychiatric industry is driven by a political adenga---not a scientific one.

    I'll go by what the dictonary defines as homosexuality, and not what your junk science says.

    Your attempts at political re-education I'll gladly throw into the garbage dumpster.
    This is just standard anti-gay rejection of science and research when it proves you wrong... which it does. Your rejection of the APA is irrelevant. They provide and do research... which not surprisingly. destroys what you claim. And your dictionary definition has already been shown to be contextually incorrect.

    Fortunately, your attempts at political re-education are so bad, no one will give them any credence.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Why is homosexuality protected by the government, but pedophilia isn't?
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Sounds distressing to me.

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    "Researchers have found that attempted suicide rates and suicidal ideation among lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQQ) youth is comparatively higher than among the general population.[1][2][3][4][5][6] LGBT teens and young adults have one of the highest rates of suicide attempts."

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    Not because of being gay. Because of the stigma from others about being gay and because of discrimination of being gay. Research has demonstrated that the level of acceptance is the major player in gay suicide rates.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Please look at a dictionary---not an occult science organization.
    Your dictionary definition has already been, contextually, destroyed. Try again.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Sounds deviant to me.

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    Deviance (sociology), actions or behaviors that violate social norms"

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    Social norms are formed by the majority of folks in a society. Currently, the majority of folks in the US have no issue with homosexuality. Therefore, it is not deviant behavior.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    So you think the Mormons here in the US that were marrying 12 year old girls should not be in prison I guess.
    Do we live in a Mormon society?
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Sexual orientation is another Lib-Com buzz word.

    The APA said pedophilia was a sexual orientation one day, and said it wasn't the next. So not even the APA can agree on what sexaul orientation even encompasses.

    Sell your snake oil to someone else.
    Another conservative, who when defeated because he is uneducated on an issue, has to use dishonesty. Conservatives seem to love to latch onto erroneous and insignificant things like typos when their positions get shredded. This is what has happened to you, here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    You still haven't given the hard figures on what percentage of pedophillic victims are boys and what percent girls.
    Of course I did. The first study made that distinction.

    As I go by the common English lanuguage, ANY male on boy sexual act would automatically make the aggressor a homosexual.
    And not only are you wrong, but you've been PROVEN wrong by research on that. It must suck to have your position destroyed like that.

    I do not, and will not buy your political sentiments that males who rape boys are not actual homosexuals. This is done for a pure political agenda of promoting homosexuality and for the decriminalization of pedophillic acts.
    Translation: I will not accept valid research that proves me wrong because the cognitive dissonance that would cause is too much for me to handle.

    A person can have homosexual desires or thoughts or impulses---but that does not make them a bona-fide homosexual under they physically undertake the act.
    Incorrect. Behavior does not equal orientation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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