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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Wait, what? I must be readings this wrong bc it sounds like you're saying the woman is willing and isn't a victim?


    In a 1985 article published in Psychological Reports, Cameron purported to review published data to answer the question, "Do those who commit homosexual acts disproportionately incorporate children into their sexual practices?" (p. 1227). He concluded that "at least one-third of the sexual attacks upon youth are homosexual" (p. 1228) and that "those who are bi- to homosexual are proportionately much more apt to molest youth" than are heterosexuals (p. 1231).

    Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

    The point was that the few women involved with raping children, were usually not sexually molesting the children themselves, but were accomplices, or allowed the abuse to happen by other men.

    Many people assume that only males are pedophiles. However, case studies on pedophilia have demonstrated that female pedophilia does exist (Chow, 2002). Although this is a rare phenomenon, females who meet the DSM-IV criteria for pedophiles display similar cognitive distortions to that of males, such as irrational thoughts. Some differences, however, do exist among males and females. Females who exhibit pedophilia tend to suffer from psychiatric disorders or substance abuse problems. Also, there is a higher correlation between sexual abuses as a child with females compared to males.

    Inside the Mind of a Pedophile | Neuroanthropology
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Here it is again:

    Homosexual:
    : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
    So a male man who has sex with a male boy has done a homosexual act and by the very meaning of the word itself---makes the man a homosexual.
    We've been thru it - there are different words for different things. Your sexual orientation towards consenting adults of the opposite sex isn't anything like a man who rapes a female child, so we call you a heterosexual male (I assume male...) and the latter a pedophile.

    B4U-Act calls pedophiles "minor-attracted people." The organization's website states its purpose is to, "help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear."

    In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming "that the 'negative potential' of adult sex with children was 'overstated' and that 'the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences."

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pe...hts-as-homosex

    Isn't that special! It's really not that bad for a child to be raped by an adult. Don't you agree?

    Sexual orientation, as I've said earlier is just a buzz word---an attempt to wipe away any moral stigma related to any devient sexual act.

    Don't you agree with MABLA and B4UAct and the APA radicals that pedophilia is just a "sexual orientation" and that all sexual orientations are good?
    First of all, no one is defending pedophiles, so I'm not really sure what the purpose of all that was.

    Second, B4U-Act has a clue in the name - before you act? The "act" there is raping a child. I've read about the group, they ARE controversial, but I can't see that their purpose is harmful. The idea behind it is a pedophile who doesn't rape children has difficulty finding treatment for his condition/disorder that will help him deal with the pedophilia without raping children, so the group tries to offer a non-judgmental treatment option for them. They have to report illegal activity (sex with minors) and if their patients report that they plan on assaulting a minor, so no one is approving child rape.

    It's a distasteful thing I'm sure to treat pedophiles, but would you rather have them treated, or left to their own devices such that, presumably, they're MORE likely to rape a child?

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    We've been thru it - there are different words for different things. Your sexual orientation towards consenting adults of the opposite sex isn't anything like a man who rapes a female child, so we call you a heterosexual male (I assume male...) and the latter a pedophile.



    First of all, no one is defending pedophiles, so I'm not really sure what the purpose of all that was.

    Second, B4U-Act has a clue in the name - before you act? The "act" there is raping a child. I've read about the group, they ARE controversial, but I can't see that their purpose is harmful. The idea behind it is a pedophile who doesn't rape children has difficulty finding treatment for his condition/disorder that will help him deal with the pedophilia without raping children, so the group tries to offer a non-judgmental treatment option for them. They have to report illegal activity (sex with minors) and if their patients report that they plan on assaulting a minor, so no one is approving child rape.

    It's a distasteful thing I'm sure to treat pedophiles, but would you rather have them treated, or left to their own devices such that, presumably, they're MORE likely to rape a child?
    As I've repeated my position on these matters before---of course a person with pedophillic desires and attractions should get help first, therapy, spritual guidance and so on from others. An honest person will seek help first.

    But to understand how I view ACTS of pedophillia---look at a capital murderer.

    Most people can contain their rage and anger, but some can't. So the person who just stabbed his ex-wife and her boyfriend to death, with their DNA soaked onto his knife says, "Hey, I'm not a murderer, I've never killed anyone before, even though I've thought about it."

    Commit just one act of raping a child and give them the rope. That is the best cure for preventing more pedophillic acts. I support the same treatment for all repeat violent offenders---at least for those who have had at least two trips through the prison system for prior violent convictions.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    What research? I don't see anything.

    What percent of pedophiles rape boys?

    Know that all men who rape boys are commiting homosexual acts---and are therefore homosexuals and/or bisexuals.
    No, they are committing paedophilic acts ...
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No, they are committing paedophilic acts ...
    For which they should die for.

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    For which they should die for.
    100% agree...
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    All Pedophiles are child molesters, but very few child molesters are Pedophiles.

    Pedophilia and Child Sexual Molestation
    I dont want to open that at work. Sorry. But how can a person molest children and not be a pedophiles?
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I dont want to open that at work. Sorry. But how can a person molest children and not be a pedophiles?
    The short answer is the typical child molester is a dirtbag father who molests his children. He's unlikely to have any kind of specific attraction to children, just likes to abuse and control and dominate his kids, and will do so at any age. Pedophiles lose interest after a certain age because their attraction is to children of a very narrow band of ages. Etc.

    There is this quote:

    True Pedophiles are responsible for only a small percentage of child sexual molestations. Half of child sexual abusers are the parents of the victims; other relatives commit an additional 18% of the offenses.
    I'm not agreeing or disagreeing (don't know which is true) - but that's the claim.

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I dont want to open that at work. Sorry. But how can a person molest children and not be a pedophiles?
    I probably shouldn't have either... damn.

    Oh well, look it up after work.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No, they are committing paedophilic acts ...
    Same-sex child rapes have the added moral penalty for homosexual acts.

    One pedophillic act is enough. One too many. For the sake of justice, and public safety, hang the pedophiles.
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