View Poll Results: Do you believe pedophilia is a disorder?

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Look at any dictonary to understand what the word homosexual is.
    Tell us the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior.;
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I just hope no child in your family is molested by a pedophile....You might change your mind on the issue if that happened.
    You have NO idea what you just said, NP. I was CLEAR that if a pedophile molests a child, that's a crime. Please read before you post something dumb.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Being a murderer is not a crime either until you act on it...
    That's true.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Okay, then here are some others who say that gays are not 10 percent:

    Based on the 2013 NHIS data [collected in 2013 from 34,557 adults aged 18 and over], 96.6% of adults identified as straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual. The remaining 1.1% of adults identified as “something else[]” [0.2%,] stated “I don’t know the answer[]” [0.4%] or refused to provide an answer [0.6%].
    What percentage of the U.S. population is gay, lesbian or bisexual? - The Washington Post

    If the 1/3 of rapes of chidren are by males attacking boys---then homosexual acts by homosexuals would occur in all of them.
    The rapes of male children by makes are done primarily by heterosexuals. What you have been posting on this issue demonstrates a decided lack of education on sexuality and demonstrates nothing but an anti-gay agenda. Here is some research that demonstrates that you don't know what you are talking about:

    Are Children at Risk for Sexual Abuse by Homosexuals?

    In this study, of 269 children who had been abused (including 76 boys) only TWO were homosexual. The research determined that this was within the context of the percentage of homosexual population or LESS.

    http://www.robinjwilson.com/articles...age%20pref.pdf

    In this study, homosexual males who were attracted to adults of the same sex, and heterosexual males who were attracted to adults of the opposite sex were shown erotic pictures of male children. There was NO difference between the sexual stimulation of both groups.

    So, what have we learned from this... other than you don't know what you are talking about? We have learned that there is a difference between sexual attraction to adults and sexual attraction to children and that the two do NOT connect. We have learned that male homosexuals molest boys at either the same percentage as there are homosexuals in the population or LESS. In essence, we have learned that nothing you have said has an credibility, and it just comes from an uneducated conservative anti-gay position. You have now been taught the facts. You're welcome.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I've heard of this, the etoro right? How can it possibly be consensual though? A belief system like that by itself can be coercive. I mean, what are you arguing, that most young boys in that tribe *want* to be inseminated, completely independent of any influence by the adults? I highly doubt that
    They don't not want it because they are not taught that it's "bad". Our society holds it to be so, but theirs does not. It runs sort of along the same line as the incest thing. If the siblings do not grow up together, the aversion does not develop. For those of us for whom the aversion has developed (vast majority), we get squicked at the idea that they can even possibility be attracted to each other. Or maybe spankings are a better parallel for you. There are many who see the clear line between spankings and beatings, and because they were not taught spankings were "bad" or "traumatic" they are not traumatized by the spankings they received. I certainly haven't been.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    They don't not want it because they are not taught that it's "bad". Our society holds it to be so, but theirs does not. It runs sort of along the same line as the incest thing. If the siblings do not grow up together, the aversion does not develop. For those of us for whom the aversion has developed (vast majority), we get squicked at the idea that they can even possibility be attracted to each other. Or maybe spankings are a better parallel for you. There are many who see the clear line between spankings and beatings, and because they were not taught spankings were "bad" or "traumatic" they are not traumatized by the spankings they received. I certainly haven't been.
    It doesn't have to be traumatic to not be consensual. Would you say when you were spanked as a kid it was consensual? You didn't enjoy it, but it had a purpose of instilling discipline and respect for rules. With this tribe, their age and cultural indoctrination makes consent quite problematic and for what purpose? Is there any evidence that this practice is beneficial? If not then i have to say, it's really hard to justify treating kids that way.

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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    First, nobody knows the percentage of gay people, only those who have identified themselves as such. Second, what are you basing the rest of your post on? In any case, any numbers you've come up with is a misunderstand of the fact that the primary factor pedophiles are fixated on is age, a concept you seem to have no seriously problem understanding when talking about male-on-female-child acts ("pedophilia"), but seem to lose the thread of when discussing male-on-male-child acts ("homosexuality").
    There are very few studies on pedophiles, for one thing. The studies and talking points I've seen don't seem to have much on the percentages of girls and boys molested---by men some 96% of the time.

    Again, it matters to me not if the pedophile was a man, a woman, a homosexual, a bisexual, a transgender or space alien----all should be hanged in the same manner. However, the added "badness" of a homosexual act makes the crime more henious. Gernerally a male on boy rape would be more traumatic and invasive than a woman on girl rape. Usually if a female is part of an act of pedophilia---she is just a willing partner in the crime.

    But, anyway---hang them all.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    These are not facts and are not supported by any research whatsoever. Homosexuals commit acts of pedophilia either similar or LESS than their statistical population. THAT'S what research shows.
    What research? I don't see anything.

    What percent of pedophiles rape boys?

    Know that all men who rape boys are commiting homosexual acts---and are therefore homosexuals and/or bisexuals.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    1) The APA declassified homosexuality as a disorder after research that clearly demonstrated this was finally allowed to be examined. Previously, the anti-gay contingent in the APA did what they could to prevent this research from being presented.
    2) All research shows that the vast majority of men who molest boys are HETEROsexuals. Just because the research destroys your anti-gay agenda really doesn't matter to me. You can stay in denial about it, but it doesn't alter that your position is pure folly.
    3) You obviously don't know what homosexuality is. It is not about sex with children. Please educate yourself on these concepts.
    Your defense of the APA is as humorous as the APA itself.

    The APA and the Psychiatric industry is driven by a political adenga---not a scientific one.

    I'll go by what the dictonary defines as homosexuality, and not what your junk science says.

    Your attempts at political re-education I'll gladly throw into the garbage dumpster.
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    Re: Would you call pedephelia a disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Since being gay is neither harmful nor distressing to the individual who is gay, you are, of course, incorrect.
    Sounds distressing to me.

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