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    Re: Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

    It deeply hurts me to see these buffoons of people flaunt themselves around like retards. They're exactly like ISIS twisting my religious values to reach their goals. It astounds me on how they can pick and choose so easily from my Bible and use God's words to spread hate through our society

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    Re: Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Niko View Post
    It deeply hurts me to see these buffoons of people flaunt themselves around like retards. They're exactly like ISIS twisting my religious values to reach their goals. It astounds me on how they can pick and choose so easily from my Bible and use God's words to spread hate through our society
    That's the thing that irritates me the most about them.

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    Re: Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



    -How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

    -How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

    -Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?
    The modern attempt to separate conservatism from religion is foolish and ignorant of history.

    From when the French Revolutionaries were first opposed, conservatism has been linked with religious faith.

    If you think conservatism predates religion, then you frankly don't have a clue about history.

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    Re: Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



    -How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

    -How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

    -Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?
    The problem is "judgement". The problem for conservatives in this context started with Jerry fallwell, then moved through Ralph Reed and has been carried on by Pat Robertson and a whole host of Republican politicians whoare only placating to the Bible voting block. US conservatism has been forever bbeen linked to religiocentric judgemental fundamentalism. The bigger problem of course is that patriotism - ("true patriotism...") has been wrapped in a flag worn by Jesus.
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

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    Re: Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

    With the exception of the extremely conservative and the extremely liberal, most of the country considers themselves fiscally conservative and socially liberal. The only real debate comes down to what is considered "fiscally conservative" vice socially liberal... as in, what do we spend the money on?

    I would vote Republican all day, every day, if the Republicans didn't alienate women and gays. And if they practiced what they preached regarding fiscal policy. Sadly, I must now waste my vote on libertarian candidates.
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    Re: Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



    -How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

    -How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

    -Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?
    I totally think the Right pushes away independents and some Leftists by making the Conservative position, one that is so commonly seen as a Christian view. To their credit, few Conservatives if any, have pushed for students to legally attend church, purchase a bible, or pray. While the Left uses the state to take money by force from taxpayers, and make it law kids must attend schools that purchase Leftist textbooks (on Economics and History), while being taught by a government employee who is most likely a Leftist, and require (yes require, I just got out of high school in May) they Pledge their Allegiance to the government flag.

    Yes them always taking about it is bothersome, but at least they seldom if ever use the state as a tool to force funding for their agendas and require kids to listen to their religious view from age 5-18.

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    Re: Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I've noticed this phenomena throughout my life being extremely conservative myself. Openly religious people tend to "Judge your conservatism against theirs" EVEN when your conservatism is far deeper than their own. I've noticed that such types are the exact people that do the most damage to conservatism on all levels. (I'm saying this as a conservative person). I just can't stand it. It makes me sick seeing someone go around acting as if their religion somehow makes them conservative. IN my experience religious people of all walks are some of the most non-conservative lifestyle people you'd ever meet yet then they put a cross on and "walla" they're ready to supposedly judge on others.



    -How are you more conservative than me because you wear religious jewelry? (They're actually serious)

    -How are you more conservative than me because you wear a certain attire? (Again, they're actually serious)

    -Do you truly believe that you can't be conservative and non religious? What do you think conservatives did before the fantasies (religions) were adopted?

    It seemed to work real good for that famous Conservative GW Bush, the first torturer.

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    Re: Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The modern attempt to separate conservatism from religion is foolish and ignorant of history.

    From when the French Revolutionaries were first opposed, conservatism has been linked with religious faith.

    If you think conservatism predates religion, then you frankly don't have a clue about history.
    I don't think so.... most of the founding fathers were influenced by Deism. Which is a very non-religious interpretation of religion.

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    Re: Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I don't think so.... most of the founding fathers were influenced by Deism. Which is a very non-religious interpretation of religion.
    The founding fathers were not conservatives.

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    Re: Flauntingly religious conservatives, do they hurt conservatism overall?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    In close, who gives a rat's ass about the quantifiable nature or yours or others conservativism?
    The people that want reasonable conservative candidates to get into office. Ones that base their platforms on actual conservative principles that address govt and not peoples' private lives or views based solely on religion (for example, 'murder' against the law is a widely held principle, as well as most religions. While Blue Laws are/were laws based on religion and are not widely held by others.)
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