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Thread: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marriage?

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So, in the case of Judaism, you're the expert because you were a religious Jew; however, in the case of Christianity, you're the expert because you were and are not a Christian.

    That makes sense.

    Claiming esoteric knowledge by way of membership and then ****ting on that lame idea is rather strange behavior.
    I like how infrequently you have anything to say about the topics we're actually discussing, and instead get by on whining about arguments from other threads where you and others were lying about other people's religions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    What "lesser status"? Are you suggesting that "Holy Matrimony" is a higher status than "civil union"? If so I totally agree with you but then I'd also suggest that regulating it through the law is a direct violation of the 1st Amendment.
    I'm saying that "marriage" is a higher status than "this thing that's like marriage but we're not calling it marriage because society favors a religion". Marriage is not yours. You don't get to steal it. And you have no idea how the first amendment works.

    Likewise, nothing to say on the actual topic, just the same uninformed crap you bring up in every thread that has to do with homosexuality. Oh, except that women are egotistical because fewer of them are forced to marry for a decent life.
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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I don't think love has anything to do with it legally actually.

    why does marriage have to be about love? Most of the world it's a business/political/social transaction.

    I am saying this because when people say the love argument... it's sole purpose is just to appeal to emotions and has nothing to do with it.
    You're describing most political discussion.
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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I'm not against SSM.... but can't people do that anyway? Without the government telling you so?
    Yes, but that doesn't excuse the government's distinction of gender in recognizing a contract between two private individuals. Who are they to tell us who we cannot and cannot enter that contract with? Shouldn't they be required to demonstrate a compelling reason to restrict that particular choice?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    but I thought it was about love?
    Why are you defending the government's restriction on who we enter a contract with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    i'm saying that "marriage" is a higher status than "this thing that's like marriage but we're not calling it marriage because society favors a religion". Marriage is not yours. You don't get to steal it. And you have no idea how the first amendment works.

    Likewise, nothing to say on the actual topic, just the same uninformed crap you bring up in every thread that has to do with homosexuality. Oh, except that women are egotistical because fewer of them are forced to marry for a decent life.
    So, in your opinion, is marriage just a set of rights granted by the state or is there a spiritual component? I guess what I'm asking is what, in your opinion, makes it a higher status than a civil union?

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    So, in your opinion, is marriage just a set of rights granted by the state or is there a spiritual component? I guess what I'm asking is what, in your opinion, makes it a higher status than a civil union?
    It's more complicated than just "a set of rights", but it is a legal entity. How you or anyone else feels about something spiritually has no bearing on anyone else or in determining the law. Spiritual feelings are not the source of benefits or restrictions on anyone. This is, of course, not merely opinion, but rather how this country does its lawmaking.
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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It's more complicated than just "a set of rights", but it is a legal entity. How you or anyone else feels about something spiritually has no bearing on anyone else or in determining the law. Spiritual feelings are not the source of benefits or restrictions on anyone. This is, of course, not merely opinion, but rather how this country does its lawmaking.
    If it's more than just a set of rights then what's the "more" part? If it isn't spiritual then it must be something so what is it?

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why are you defending the government's restriction on who we enter a contract with?
    I'm playing a little devil's advocate.

    I personally think marriage should be changed to a civil union... and any individuals can participate in the union.

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    So, in your opinion, is marriage just a set of rights granted by the state or is there a spiritual component? I guess what I'm asking is what, in your opinion, makes it a higher status than a civil union?
    Depends on the type of marriage being talked about, context.

    For legal marriage, it is just about becoming legal spouses and gaining the rights, benefits, etc. that come with that legal relationship.

    For individuals, there might be a spiritual component, but that is part of the "personal marriage".

    No civil unions have ever in the US been equal to marriage. Plus, the only reason they are being "offered" now is because some people are upset about same sex couples using the word marriage, not because those people really want to give up their marriages. They just don't want to share something they don't even own.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that the act itself contradicts nature.



    You know what consummation is and I'm not going to explain it to you.
    I'd suggest to you the the fact that something is widely practiced for a couple of thousand years is evidence that it is not contradicting nature but is in fact in mans nature.
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