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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Heterosexual marriage is currently in decline, do you believe homosexual marriage is one of the reasons for that decline?

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    No. The reason for the hetero marriage decline is due to a decline in morals overall. More cohabitation and casual sex. Morals are viewed as some right wing conspiracy. The left equates morals with christian zealotry, so its bad.

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Right, but I'm using the entire population, from which a percentage of people are currently artificially excluded by laws against getting married to their partner. You, for some reason, are choosing to exclude that population up until they do have the option to get married. I guess they just don't count as part of society and culture until then?
    No I am not. I am pointing out that the push to bring in SSM is part of the same cultural shifts that reduce the incidence of successful marriage, and that thus SSM will correlate with reductions in successful marriages across the populace.

    So, to put it back into mathematics, ((Heterosexuals * 0.75) + (Homosexuals * 0.0)) / Total Populace > ((Heterosexuals *0.4) + (Homosexuals * 0.15)) / Total Populace

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    A "successful" marriage though is subjective. And there is nothing truly wrong or harmful about people just getting divorced, ending their marriages.
    There is, actually. Divorce makes people poorer, less happy, and less capable of raising well-adjusted children.

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    There is, actually. Divorce makes people poorer, less happy, and less capable of raising well-adjusted children.
    Not necessarily. It depends on the couple and their particular divorce. Even if it is the case for most, it is still not the case for all.

    Not all couples have children when they divorce. Not all people are less happy or poorer from their divorce, particularly one of the two people. Not all children are worse off if their parents divorce, particularly in the long run.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Heterosexual marriage is currently in decline, do you believe homosexual marriage is one of the reasons for that decline?

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    I don't think they're related one whit. In fact, once the newness of being able to marry wears off, and individual selfishness rears its ugly head, same-sex marriage will probably decline to the same status as heterosexual marriage.
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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not necessarily.
    Sure, you have outliers. That does not alter the existance or the impact of the average.

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sure, you have outliers. That does not alter the existance or the impact of the average.
    You can't prove any great negative impact. Also, if most same sex couples aren't raising kids, then that pretty much means that the majority of those who are getting divorced are not negatively impacting kids, meaning one less thing to bring down the average. Also, you don't really have any proof that same sex married couples here in the US are more likely to divorce in greater numbers than opposite sex married couples are. There has been no study available for that. What data we have from Mass., the state with the first marriage laws here, show that there is no significant difference. In fact, those states that allow same sex couples to marry also have lower divorce rates, not higher ones.

    States That Allow Same-Sex Marriage Have Lower Divorce Rates | NBC Chicago

    Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in the country despite being the first state to allow same sex couples to get married. Seems a bit counter to your claim. It certainly didn't negatively affect the average in the last 10 years for Mass.

    But more importantly, you cannot prevent people from negatively impacting their own life by breaking off a marriage. Divorce is legal.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That sure seems to be what it's boiling down to and if that's the difference then it seems we may have a first amendment issue when it comes to the state sanctioning "marriage".
    Marriage predates any popular religion today.
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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Marriage predates any popular religion today.
    Sure. But it's still a ceremony with very deep religious roots across pretty much all denominations.

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    Re: Is the legalization of SS marriage a cause for the decline of heterosexual marria

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Sure. But it's still a ceremony with very deep religious roots across pretty much all denominations.
    That's called a WEDDING. States don't do weddings.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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