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  • He should be judged strictly by today's standards and mores.

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  • Somewhere in the middle. (Please elaborate)

    9 14.75%
  • He should be judged by the standards and more of the time in which he lived.

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    Re: How should Christopher Columbus be judged?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    He should be judged as someone that is no longer alive today...and has been dead for centuries. IE:
    Not worth judging when there are more important things to consider.



    I agree. there are people alive right now in Syria and Iraq who are doing things just as bad as Columbus did.

    We need to focus on those people.

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    Re: How should Christopher Columbus be judged?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I think the public handles honest history quite well. But many of us don't handle quite so well the politically correct version that rewrites history in a way the left wants it to be seen instead of the more honest version of the way it was. Why is Jefferson's relationship with Sally Hemings pertinent to his political views or his general philosophy or his tenure as POTUS for instance? One has nothing to do with the other. They are separate stories and we don't really know what relationship existed between Jefferson and Hemings though it was widely believed to be a consensual loving relationship and
    there is no evidence that Jefferson was a cruel or harsh slave master.
    There is plenty of evidence that he was philosophically opposed to slavery and very much opposed it spreading beyond the slave states in which it existed. The Monticello society that maintains the Jefferson family property and the Jeffersonian histories has done exhaustive research on Jefferson's relationship with Hemings but admits there is really little known.

    The point to this being, of course, that such history can be distorted and used to discredit historical figures so that the leftist doctrines are more easily established in modern times. Or they can be portrayed honestly and as a matter of interest and in their proper context and importance.


    Jefferson had escaped slaves captured and lashed, he was a brutal man.

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    Re: How should Christopher Columbus be judged?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Because he was a pretty frickin' evil guy and somehow the USA named a holiday after him.
    He's been a long time dead.
    Don't work out, work in.

    Never eat anything that's served in a bucket.

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    Re: How should Christopher Columbus be judged?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    BS, he found the Americas completely by accident!


    Correct. He ran into the Americas because they were in his way.

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    Re: How should Christopher Columbus be judged?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    He should be judged truthfully: his words and deeds and their implications, both
    good and the bad
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    He did nothing good. He didn't even make it to India.

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    Re: How should Christopher Columbus be judged?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    Not sure why any of columbus' faults must be taught. Nobody ever taught me however instill learned of it. Teach kids the basics of what his significance is and let self discovery occur from there.

    This attempt to demonize historical figures
    by the left is another example of an insurgency in this country that truly wants to see its downfall


    No one has to demonize Columbus, if the truth is told about this man it's obvious that he was a living demon.

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    Re: How should Christopher Columbus be judged?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Whistle for it.


    I just whistled. Where is it?

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    Re: How should Christopher Columbus be judged?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    He's been a long time dead.


    It's sad that he didn't die before he ran into the Americas.

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    Re: How should Christopher Columbus be judged?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    People should never be judged by a generations standards they did not live. It doesn't make sense. Columbus should be judged by the standards of the world he lived in.
    Of course. But lefties do it routinely. Never understood why.

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    Re: How should Christopher Columbus be judged?

    As a murdering ****. Even in his time, his actions were found reprehensible by even the Spanish Crown later on. Though he did mostly get a slap on the wrist.

    History is full of men that did terrible and great things and were larger than life after their deaths or sometimes during their lives. Columbus isn't all that great at much other than his voyage changed human history, which is more a matter of getting there first than doing anything genuinely productive afterwards.

    It's not something I give much thought to and I find people that feel the need to bring it up every goddamn Columbus day to make themselves seem smarter and historically....adept are just bloody annoying. There's worse men in history and you don't see people faulting Mongolia for its' huge statue of Genghis Khan, and Columbus was a mere pup compared to him -- both selective reading and selective memory are an art form. I saw some dumb Salon headline calling North America a crime scene while recollecting Columbus' crimes, the whole damn crime world is a crime scene, just a basic understanding shows that the only unique about the tragedies of the Americas is that it took place on the other side of the ocean in the North and South American continents.

    If it's worth anything, I wouldn't care if Columbus Day were replaced with something more....wholesome as I said on another thread about everyone's favorite explorer.

    It's all of little importance to me in the long run though.

    On a lighter note.....
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    "We have more responsibility than power, I think. The newspaper can create great controversies, stir up arguments within the community or discussion, can throw light on injustices....just as it can do the opposite. It can hide things and be a great power for evil." -- Rupert Murdoch, 1968

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