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    Re: Who would you vote for in a republican primary?

    Here's what The Washington Post wrote about the impact of defense cuts in an editorial on the topic:

    Since 2010, defense spending has been slashed 21 percent in real terms, according to the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments , which also produced last week’s war cost study. The Army has announced plans to reduce its size to the lowest level since before World War II, while the Navy is on its way to the smallest number of ships in a century...

    The undeniable reality, as a bipartisan commission created by Congress recently concluded, is that the 2011 budget plan was a “serious strategic misstep” that has hamstrung the Pentagon’s ability to respond to the multiple international crises of this year.


    Paying for wars against the Islamic State, Ebola and more - The Washington Post

    The newspaper went on to urge restored funding. In a world in which one assumes that American power makes a positive contribution to stability and in which the U.S. has many far-flung interests and strategic allies, by a situation in which the Army would be at its smallest level since before World War II and the Navy would have the fewest ships in a century.

    President Reagan was fond of arguing for "peace through strength." He wasn't articulating a doctrine of crusading military intervention. Instead, he was arguing that strength was a necessary component of deterrence. If successful, deterrence would reduce the number of conflicts in which the U.S. would have to get involved. Without strength, deterrence would fail.

    IMO, the conservatism of President Reagan was premised in a sound understanding of history and the world. The Paul variant, which would reduce the military well beyond the figures cited in The Washington Post's editorial is something quite different that is based on idealistic assumptions of a peaceful world and dependence on others' good will.

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    Re: Who would you vote for in a republican primary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    Lots of good candidates in 2016

    Jeb Bush
    Rand Paul
    Mitt Romney
    Paul Ryan
    Ted Cruz
    Ben Carson
    Scott Brown


    At this point i am leaning Paul or Carson

    I like the idea of a president that has done something other than politics. I also share many of the same positions of paul and carson. Not all, but i dont miss the forest for the trees. I would support any of the above candidates tho if they won the primary.

    What say you
    I don't think Carson is ready yet--he has no government or management experience at all and even the greatest point of view and best attitude won't get things done if you don't know how to get things done. But he would make somebody a great Vice President that would give him good training/experience. Of the group on the poll list, Jeb or Mitt are both the best qualified and Mitt would not come with the baggage of the Bush legacy. I didn't mark a poll option yet though. Will have to think about it.

    If I had to name my dream team right now at this minute, it would be Trey Gowdy Pres & Ben Carson Veep.
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    Re: Who would you vote for in a republican primary?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I don't think Carson is ready yet--he has no government or management experience at all and even the greatest point of view and best attitude won't get things done if you don't know how to get things done. But he would make somebody a great Vice President that would give him good training/experience. Of the group on the poll list, Jeb or Mitt are both the best qualified and Mitt would not come with the baggage of the Bush legacy. I didn't mark a poll option yet though. Will have to think about it.

    If I had to name my dream team right now at this minute, it would be Trey Gowdy Pres & Ben Carson Veep.
    I agree. That is a dream team. Sign 'em up. I'll make sure I vote in the GOP primary.

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    Re: Who would you vote for in a republican primary?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I don't think Carson is ready yet--he has no government or management experience at all and even the greatest point of view and best attitude won't get things done if you don't know how to get things done.
    This is why I don't believe he should be on the ticket. If something were to happen to the President, he would still not be prepared. A senior-level (Cabinet or sub-Cabinet) position, probably in a health-related area given his field of expertise, might be a good way for Carson to begin to develop management/leadership experience in public service.

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    Re: Who would you vote for in a republican primary?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    This is why I don't believe he should be on the ticket. If something were to happen to the President, he would still not be prepared. A senior-level (Cabinet or sub-Cabinet) position, probably in a health-related area given his field of expertise, might be a good way for Carson to begin to develop management/leadership experience in public service.
    At this point I would take the chance. I am so sick of the permanent political class that exists only to increase its own personal power, prestige, influence, and fortune that I will risk putting in somebody with less than optimal experience just to get somebody with the right values. Trey Gowdy hasn't been in Congress long enough to be ruined yet and he would recruit an excellent team to serve that Carson would inherit and that would see him through if he should have to take over.
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    Re: Who would you vote for in a republican primary?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Not really. If the House actually wanted to get something done rather than just throw up meaningless legislation, has they have been, they would pass pre-negotiated bills. You would recognize a pre-negotiated bill as one that had bi-partisan support (20-40 dems voting with it and 20 or so very conservative members voting against it). Instead, they are passing legislation which appeals only to the right and extreme right side of the party. Such legislation is going to be DOA in the Senate, because it has NO middle of the road (and slightly left of center) appeal. Its not serious legislation.

    The reason Reid doesn't take this stuff up is its not serious (like trying to repeal Obamacare 50+ times... that isn't serious).... serious legislation would have constructively amended Obamacare, with an eye toward making it work correctly.
    That is incorrect. Besides, the Senate is not even trying to discuss/negotiate/modify any bills, the are just sitting dormant. There is a big huge close-minded road block to most all bills: Harry Reid.

    Here is one list of the 387 Bills. There is info on the votes on most of them as well.
    Bill Tracker

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    Re: Who would you vote for in a republican primary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    In foreign affairs Rand Paul is an irresponsible loon, and a know-nothing. If he were the Repub nominee I would support Hillary Clinton.
    Thank you for demonstrating how your desire to bomb other countries into oblivion is stronger than your desire for liberty at home.
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    Re: Who would you vote for in a republican primary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    That is incorrect. Besides, the Senate is not even trying to discuss/negotiate/modify any bills, the are just sitting dormant. There is a big huge close-minded road block to most all bills: Harry Reid.

    Here is one list of the 387 Bills. There is info on the votes on most of them as well.
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    Show me the bills that have bi-partisan support in the house (at least 30 Dem votes and many Conservative No votes) and you will move your point forward. The bills that are passed substantially along party lines that are sitting dormant in the Senate are not serious bills. If they were serious, you would see crossover vote in the house. In any serious business transaction, you put forth a reasonable offer that you know will be taken seriously because you have addressed the constituency you are presenting it to. If you can even get cross-over vote in the house, why do you think the Senate should take it seriously? Answer: they don't, which is why they sit on the sidelines, as they should. Negotiations only happen with a serious first offer; a serious first offer has 30+ democrats voting in favor

    Though I agree some bills (a handful) meet this criteria, most do not and are not serious pieces of legislation. They are just showboat to the House can do what its doing and say "look here, we did our job"...... Serious minds, however, are more discriminating and see this for the farce it is.

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    Re: Who would you vote for in a republican primary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Thank you for demonstrating how your desire to bomb other countries into oblivion is stronger than your desire for liberty at home.
    Non sequitur.
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    Re: Who would you vote for in a republican primary?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    This is why I don't believe he should be on the ticket. If something were to happen to the President, he would still not be prepared. A senior-level (Cabinet or sub-Cabinet) position, probably in a health-related area given his field of expertise, might be a good way for Carson to begin to develop management/leadership experience in public service.
    If that, really. I think he needs possibly an even lower position to start with.
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