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In Your Opinion is the PKK a Terrorist Organization?

In Your Opinion is the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party) a Terrorist Organization?

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Lord Tammerlain said:
Hezbollah has been, so has the Syrian government
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Yeah, the problem with that is that the Syrian government is willing to fight everybody, including those seeking a more democratic Syria. As for Hezbollah, they may be willing to fight ISIS, but only after they kill every Jew they can find.
 
Wiggen said:
Yeah, the problem with that is that the Syrian government is willing to fight everybody, including those seeking a more democratic Syria. As for Hezbollah, they may be willing to fight ISIS, but only after they kill every Jew they can find.
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Hezbollah is not about killing jews, but keeping Israel out of Lebanon. Which Hezbollah does not leave to the Lebanese army because it is about as incompetent as the Iraqi army when it comes to actual fighting
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Hezbollah is not about killing jews, but keeping Israel out of Lebanon. Which Hezbollah does not leave to the Lebanese army because it is about as incompetent as the Iraqi army when it comes to actual fighting
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False.

Since 2012, Hezbollah has helped the Syrian government during the Syrian civil war in its fight against the Syrian opposition, which Hezbollah has described as a Zionist plot and a "Wahhabi-Zionist conspiracy" to destroy its alliance with Assad against Israel.[44][45] Once seen as a resistance movement throughout much of the Arab world,[12] this image upon which the group's legitimacy rested has been severely damaged due to the sectarian nature of the Syrian Civil War in which it has become embroiled.[29][46][47]
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Hezbollah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Hamster Buddha said:
No, but what they did do was form an army and fight the British in the field, not target London with bombings.
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You should go back and reread your history, a more in depth version. Try reading the real history of the Revolution in the South and how 'polite' we Americans treated each other.... :peace
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Well I guess you can add
Fighting against radical sunni islamist groups that really dislike and tend to kill shia muslims when they find them
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And claiming they are part of a Zionist conspiracy lead by The Joos in their quest to destroy the world. And that Hez only exists as an arm of the Iranian regime and is not a grassroots militia movement.

But sure, other than that Hez, the terrorist organization, is merely a resistance movement (of Iran).
 
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ecofarm said:
And claiming they are part of a Zionist conspiracy lead by The Joos in their quest to destroy the world. And that Hez only exists as an arm of the Iranian regime and is not a grassroots militia movement.

But sure, other than that Hez, the terrorist organization, is merely a resistance movement (of Iran).
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Grassroots?

Certainly it was and still is predominately Shia Lebanese with the primary focus on defending southern Lebanon from Israel. It was formed to force Israel out of southern Lebanon and its forces are predominately trained and equipped for that role.

Is it funded heavily by Iran, yes of course. Is it fighting in Syria, yes, and I think most people should be glad that it is. The US funding of the Sunni groups in Syria has lead to ISIS or ISIL.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Grassroots?

Certainly it was and still is predominately Shia Lebanese with the primary focus on defending southern Lebanon from Israel. It was formed to force Israel out of southern Lebanon and its forces are predominately trained and equipped for that role.

Is it funded heavily by Iran, yes of course. Is it fighting in Syria, yes, and I think most people should be glad that it is. The US funding of the Sunni groups in Syria has lead to ISIS or ISIL.
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That's a mishmash of nonsense.

Hez is not merely funded by Iran, it is Iran. Without Iran, Hez does not exist in any semblance of current form. Iran directly creates, grows and continues to feed in every way possible the terrorist organization Hez and yet you minimize that and claim the US does something you have no direct evidence of.

In the course of your CT about the US, you openly apologize for Hez and Iran. How nice.
 
notquiteright said:
You should go back and reread your history, a more in depth version. Try reading the real history of the Revolution in the South and how 'polite' we Americans treated each other.... :peace
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Oh look, someone who cherry picks history and pretends it says something it doesn't. Maybe you should go back and read why it was to the point of a Civil War in South Carolina (I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the Americans that turned it into the bloodiest state of the Revolution). But even beyond that, what was going on in the South had nothing to do with the Continental Army now did it? You didn't see Greene going down there and getting involved, now did you?

How about you go fail history somewhere else...
 
Grand Mal said:
Do they use terror to further their aims?
There is a definition of terrorism. It's not just a matter of opinion.
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I wonder if you were getting so technical when the issue of Mandela being a terrorist was brought up...
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Hezbollah is not about killing jews, but keeping Israel out of Lebanon. Which Hezbollah does not leave to the Lebanese army because it is about as incompetent as the Iraqi army when it comes to actual fighting
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Hezbollah is about killing Jews. It always has been and it always will be. But if you are telling me that, even as we discuss this, brave Hezbollah fighters are rushing into Syria and Iraq to stop the barbarians from beheading more innocents, I'll be delighted to acknowledge it.
 
Wiggen said:
Hezbollah is about killing Jews. It always has been and it always will be. But if you are telling me that, even as we discuss this, brave Hezbollah fighters are rushing into Syria and Iraq to stop the barbarians from beheading more innocents, I'll be delighted to acknowledge it.
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They are not heading into Iraq, as it is rather far from their supply lines, but in Syria, they have been very active fighting against ISIS
 
Do you have a link for that?
 
Wiggen said:
Do you have a link for that?
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Plenty
Kurds and Hezbollah bury their dead as they try to stop ISIS | Daily Mail Online

http://www.newsweek.com/tel-aviv-diary-israelis-fear-double-threat-hezbollah-and-isis-276181

Hezbollah kills ISIS leader near Syria-Lebanon border: activists

Hezbollah has put its members lives on the line, and lost some in the fight against ISIS/ISIL.

Other then to bomb them after giving them weapons what has the US done, what has Saudi Arabia, Qatar done other then to fund ISIS
 
What weapons have we provided to ISIS? Please provide a link that supports this bizarre suggestion. Or do you simply have a knee jerk reaction to blame your country for everything (you are an American, right, or are you a member of Hezbollah)?

And please, let's not portray Hezbollah as on some noble crusade to stop terrorism. They are simply trying to safeguard their own hides. The difference between Hezbollah and the PKK is that Hezbollah would willingly kill every American they could find. The Kurds are primarily interested in killing ISIS.
 
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Wiggen said:
What weapons have we provided to ISIS? Please provide a link that supports this bizarre suggestion. Or do you simply have a knee jerk reaction to blame your country for everything (you are an American, right, or are you a member of Hezbollah)?
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Congress secretly approves U.S. weapons flow to 'moderate' Syrian rebels | Reuters

Rice Hints U.S. Providing Weapons to Syrian Rebels - Middle East - News - Arutz Sheva


Where do you think the weapons the US sent to Syria ended up? Be realistic now, if the "moderate" rebels" had them they would have done and be doing much better then they are.

And please, let's not portray Hezbollah as on some noble crusade to stop terrorism. They are simply trying to safeguard their own hides. The difference between Hezbollah and the PKK is that Hezbollah would willingly kill every American they could find. The Kurds are primarily interested in killing ISIS.
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The Kurds main focus for the last 30 or so years has been the creation of a Kurdish state, that involved terrorist acts and attacks on the various militaries of Iraq and Turkey primarily. Right now they are helping to fight ISIS, but not all the Kurds are doing so. I don't think that all of the PKK are now fighting in Iraq

Hezbollah was primarily focused on getting Israel out of South Lebanon, and getting rid of the South Lebanese Army (not an official army of Lebanon). It's primary focus is defense against Israel. It is also like the Kurds sending fighters against ISIS
 
Technically, any organization that employs terror is by definition terrorists.

Granted, that makes pretty much every government terrorists. Terror is a method. Remember that.
 
The Plattsburgh Knights of the Keyboards?

A terrorist group?

Definitely not.
 
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