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    Re: Do you think the beheading of the woman in Okl was work place violence or terrori

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Call it whatever you want, argue about it all day if that's what floats your boat, it changes nothing for the victim, she's still dead.
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    That is true, but it matters in a fundamental way. Taking a "who gives a damn" stance on what the motives and methods to murder are, is a H. Clinton-esque approach, which says it doesnt matter, so why should we care. If it is terrorism, that is important. Terrorism is meant to effect society and culture. It is something that we need to have a n intelligent understanding of. The lone nut case going postal doesnt have that effect.
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    Re: Do you think the beheading of the woman in Okl was work place violence or terrori

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    That is true, but it matters in a fundamental way. Taking a "who gives a damn" stance on what the motives and methods to murder are, is a H. Clinton-esque approach, which says it doesnt matter, so why should we care. If it is terrorism, that is important. Terrorism is meant to effect society and culture. It is something that we need to have a n intelligent understanding of. The lone nut case going postal doesnt have that effect.
    which says it doesnt matter, so why should we care.
    No, it doesn't. I'm not saying her death doesn't matter. Her death does matter. She was someones loved one. Mother, Wife and Grandmother. My stance is it was a repulsive act irrespective of whether it's deemed work place violence or a Terrorist Act. If it is deemed workplace violence then that doesn't make it any less tragic or horrific in my eyes. If it is deemed a Terrorist act then it also doesn't make me more aware of the threat that extremists pose to civilians. You'd have to be living in a cave to not already be aware of that.

    Terrorism is meant to effect society and culture. It is something that we need to have a n intelligent understanding of. If it is terrorism, that is important.
    Lizzie, i've already got a very clear understanding of what Terrorism is. Terrorist attacks kill and maim thousands each year, the effect they can have on individuals and their families are horrific and the fear and threat of terrorism can have a crippling psychological effect on society. I get it. I know all that already.

    I don't need to have her death classified as a Terrorist Act to convince me that extremist individuals and groups are a problem.
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    Re: Do you think the beheading of the woman in Okl was work place violence or terrori

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Homicide. The location doesn't really matter. As for it being related to terrorism, I have no freaking clue. Has the perpetrator expressed any political or social agenda as the reason for his actions?
    No, not when committing the crime. He was a Muslim though. But his religion wouldn't even be mentioned were he a Christian. He would just be a deranged and disgruntled employee.
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    Re: Do you think the beheading of the woman in Okl was work place violence or terrori

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post

    Lizzie, i've already got a very clear understanding of what Terrorism is. Terrorist attacks kill and maim thousands each year, the effect they can have on individuals and their families are horrific and the fear and threat of terrorism can have a crippling psychological effect on society. I get it. I know all that already.

    I don't need to have her death classified as a Terrorist Act to convince me that extremist individuals and groups are a problem.
    I don't either, but that's what the op was asking, and I do think that the distinction matters- a lot.
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    Re: Do you think the beheading of the woman in Okl was work place violence or terrori

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What do you think?
    I think Obama is "workplace incompetence".

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    Re: Do you think the beheading of the woman in Okl was work place violence or terrori

    Workplace violence by a sick man who desperately wants to belong, even if that means imitating some savages.

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    Re: Do you think the beheading of the woman in Okl was work place violence or terrori

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    True. I don't feel terrified, I feel pissed off and I also feel a strong desire to show that coward what terror really means.
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    Re: Do you think the beheading of the woman in Okl was work place violence or terrori

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I see it as a really good argument for capital punishment.
    In a racist society that marginalizes African-Americans and deprives them of a good education and opportunities, is it any wonder that violent ideologies appeal to them?

    Maybe we should target the social problems that cause "terrorism" instead of trying to make "terrorists" out of US citizens.

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    Re: Do you think the beheading of the woman in Okl was work place violence or terrori

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What do you think?
    He was suspended and escorted to the parking lot which most likely meant he was fired.Immediately after that he went home, got a blade,returned to the work place and stabbed a woman and cut her head off and attacked another person. Usually when a person is fired and starts killing people at his former place of employment its called going postal ie workplace violence. That individual is doing that is because he is bonkers and is doing that as some sort of revenge. If there wan't there fact he was suspended or fired then it could be reasonable to assume he did it as some sort of lone wolf terrorist act.I strongly suspect that if was not fired/suspended then he would not have murdered one person and attempted to murder another.
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    Re: Do you think the beheading of the woman in Okl was work place violence or terrori

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    In a racist society that marginalizes African-Americans and deprives them of a good education and opportunities, is it any wonder that violent ideologies appeal to them?

    Maybe we should target the social problems that cause "terrorism" instead of trying to make "terrorists" out of US citizens.
    Uhm, didn't this slimeball work in the same place as his victim? How is that being deprived of opportunity? I'm sure that subhuman cowardly waste of oxygen appreciates your support and justification of his actions. No conversation touching on terrorism, is complete until someone takes the inevitable position the that those who suffer terrorism are actually to blame for it.

    This is why I agree with Lizzie that it is important to not shy away from calling something terrorism even if it offends the knee jerk defenders. At the same time, I think there's room for legit disagreement in this case. To me, "work place violence" just doesn't do justice to what this asshole did but neither am I terrorized or fearful at what happened, just incredibly angry and fervently wishing that the victim had had a gun to defend herself.
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