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Another Horrific Black On White Murder Ignored By Press

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So let them have drugs by your solution.

Lachean is absolutely correct. We should end the senseless war on drugs.

Stinger said:
Not words being put in your mouth, just apply your solution here. So what say you? Or does poverty cause this gross disproportionate rate of black on white rape? If not what is your excuse for it?

I don't know. What is YOUR excuse for it? What exactly are you suggesting here? That black people are naturally inclined to rape?

Stinger said:
Imagine if next year suddenly white men raped black women in the same numbers as black men rape white women. That would mean instead of 900 black women getting raped by white men every year it would mean about 1,500,000. Think it would be noticed? Think there would be an outrage?

Translation: "Lock up your daughters! Those damn porch-monkeys are coming for them! When's the next NASCAR event?"
 
But thanks for smearing me as a desperate bigot making idiotic blanket statements. It's cute when liberals try to challenge facts and evidence. Too bad it always comes out as an unthinking, factually impaired tantrum.

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Yawn.

Let me know when you or Hatuey can come up with a valid exception to the media's "no reporting black on white violence" rule instead of just bringing up irrelevant public safety stories about guys killing all sorts of people out of Jihadist rage while happening to be black.

Oh pubby.

CNN.com - Cold-case squad to probe decades-old Atlanta murders - May 7, 2005
CNN.com - Transcripts
FOXNews.com - Lawyers for Man Blamed for 2 Dozen Murders Ask for DNA Tests - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
Convicted killer blames child molester - Crime & Punishment - MSNBC.com
ABC News: DNA Tests Sought in Ga. Child Killings

Let's see here. He's not a jihadist..and he's not a celebrity. What else does he need to make your list? :|
 
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Translation: "Lock up your daughters! Those damn porch-monkeys are coming for them! When's the next NASCAR event?"

Being a little racist here yourself are we?

If I were to stereotype all blacks as a bunch of "less than educated" folks who's lives revolved around basketball I would be burned at the stake.

You... You... You RACIST!
 
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Being a little racist here yourself are we?

If I were to stereotype all blacks as a bunch of "less than educated" folks who's lives revolved around basketball I would be burned at the stake.

You... You... You RACIST!

He has a point, Kandahar.
 
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When's the next NASCAR event?"

Being a little racist here yourself are we?

If I were to stereotype all blacks as a bunch of "less than educated" folks who's lives revolved around basketball I would be burned at the stake.

You... You... You RACIST!

I'm white. Am I racist against myself?
 
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I'm white. Am I racist against myself?

Yes, or at least it sounded like it. Of course, it could have been meant as a joke, but jokes are dangerous when dealing with racism.

More accurately, you sounded bigoted against a certain type of Caucasian, not Caucasians in general.

Now, one could argue that being bigoted against someone you consider a bigot is fine……but then what is wrong with said person that you consider a bigot being bigoted against people of another race whom they consider bigots?
 
Then why are you bitching about the "Wichita Massacres" and the "Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom murders"? According to the links that you cited, neither of them have anything at all to do with race. They were just cases where the perpetrators happened to be black and the victims happened to be white.

Supposedly, but the bigger point here is that, as we see with cases like the Duke Lacrosse "rape," when white guys are even alleged to have attacked a black person, race is automatically presumed to be the motive, or at least part of it, and the coverage is relentless.

All Hatuey's counterpoints have established is that if you want the media to make an exception to its "don't cover black on white violence" rule, you have to be one of the greatest football players of all time (O.J.) or 95% of the coverage has to occur before the media even knew you were black, and it needs to be about indiscriminant Jihadist rage (sniper shootings).
 
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Being a little racist here yourself are we?

If I were to stereotype all blacks as a bunch of "less than educated" folks who's lives revolved around basketball I would be burned at the stake.

You... You... You RACIST!

Imagine if next year suddenly white men raped black women in the same numbers as black men rape white women. That would mean instead of 900 black women getting raped by white men every year it would mean about 1,500,000. Think it would be noticed? Think there would be an outrage?

Yawn it's funny that he's trying to push a myth.

Facts about Sex Offenders - Megan's Law - California Dept. of Justice - Office of the Attorney General

Most sexual assaults are committed by someone of the same race as the victim. An exception to this is that people who commit sexual assault against Native Americans are usually not Native American (American Indians and Crime, 1999).

SFRCC : Same-Sex Violence

Most of the rapes in the U.S. are committed by white men. Many people in the U.S. wrongly believe that the majority of rapes are committed by Men-of-Color against white women. The fact is that 90% of rapes occur between people of the same race. However, Men-of-Color are disproportionately incarcerated.
 
All Hatuey's counterpoints have established is that if you want the media to make an exception to its "don't cover black on white violence" rule, you have to be one of the greatest football players of all time (O.J.) or 95% of the coverage has to occur before the media even knew you were black, and it needs to be about indiscriminant Jihadist rage (sniper shootings).

Amazingly you ignored post :

http://www.debatepolitics.com/556237-post52.html

4 different news sources covering it....what are the odds? :|
 
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Translation: "Lock up your daughters! Those damn porch-monkeys are coming for them! When's the next NASCAR event?"

Interesting you targeted NASCAR fans there. Ever hear about that left-wing journalist who sent a Muslim into a NASCAR event all day with a hidden camera only to be shocked that not one remotely hostile word was said to the man?

This elitist snobbery and bigotry against the working man is standard among liberals.
 
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Interesting you targeted NASCAR fans there. Ever hear about that left-wing journalist who sent a Muslim into a NASCAR event all day with a hidden camera only to be shocked that not one remotely hostile word was said to the man?

This elitist snobbery and bigotry against the working man is standard among liberals.

Rofl. I think Kandahar was making a joke about how Stinger sounded like a refined version of 1950s rednecks. Not so much about NASCAR fans.
 
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Rofl. I think Kandahar was making a joke about how Stinger sounded like a refined version of 1950s rednecks. Not so much about NASCAR fans.

And if a joke was made related to the race of those people who attend basketball events and then turn around and start a friggin' riot because their team lost that would not be acceptable at all.....

Yet its okay to stereotype NASCAR fans... because they are white... right?

The hypocrisy of this whole racism thing is a ****ing joke.
 
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And if a joke was made related to the race of those people who attend basketball events and then turn around and start a friggin' riot because their team lost that would not be acceptable at all.....

Ummm people of all colors watch Basketball. Even on this site we have white basketball fans. What exatcly is yours point? :doh . Millions of white males and females watch baseball and even more watch basketball. In my are alone there is a 4 to 1 ratio of white basketball fans to black basketball fans. Amazing for a state with no teams in the pros.

Yet its okay to stereotype NASCAR fans... because they are white... right?

Oh wow...NASCAR fans are white? Didn't know the white man had such a choke hold on that particular motor sport. 75 Million fans and not one of them is black? Damnnnnnnnn hoooooooomiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeee.

End sarcasm.
 
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It's true, a better example would've been dog fighting! Oh damn, I went there!
:2razz: :doh

You've obviously never been to the Bronx or Brooklyn :P

Anywho, I'm from Chicago, and I feel it bears to mention that we don't riot when we lose a game, we riot when we win.

Rofl. Yep. See I don't really like Basketball. Not cause I find it to be a sport for underachievers but I've always been a Dodgers/Braves fan. I've been a Redskins fan since I can remember. Bball just never been my thing. I only cheer for local basketball teams. I think the Lakers are ****. Nothing but a bunch of overgrown sissies who got too cocky. Oh well. To each his own.
 

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Oh Hatuey. Is the definition of BLACK ON WHITE violence really that hard to grasp?

Excerpt:

"From And it rekindled a debate about whether Wayne Williams, who was convicted of killing two men during that period and later implicated in 22 of the remaining 27 cases, could have been responsible for that many murders, as the police said he was.

Williams, a freelance photographer and music promoter, was convicted in 1982 of killing Jimmy Ray Payne, 21, and Nathaniel Cater, 27. He was sentenced to two life terms. He has always maintained his innocence.

At the time of the murders, Graham, assistant chief of the Fulton County Police Department, was on the task force investigating the killings. He's always been bothered, he said, by the notion that the wrong man may have been sent to prison.

Some in the black community have had the same nagging suspicions. Would the cases have been closed so quickly, they ask, if the victims were white
?"

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. May 15, 2005. Pg. 1A. "Atlanta's nightmare: Doubt lingers."


His victims weren't white. Of course the media covered it thoroughly.
 
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And proud of it!!!

I was referring to the dog fights. I went to one in Brooklyn a few months ago. I saw 2 white guys for every asian guy. Maybe 1 -2 black people.

Man, what the hell kind of black person are you? :rofl

We can agree 100% on one thing, **** the Lakers!

I never liked Kobe. I think he's a good player. He's just got that "I can't lose" attitude.

As far as the serious discussion here, of course there are double standards, and they go both ways, and I don't think it goes too far to say you guys definately get the short end of the stick! I'll take having a harder time getting into grad school and getting in trouble for jokes over getting my *** kicked by the LAPD and the death penalty any day of the week!

In exchange for us getting beat up by the LAPD we'll take endless bitching by Sharpton and Jackson without anything ever changing. Deal?
 
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Oh Hatuey. Is the definition of BLACK ON WHITE violence really that hard to grasp?

ABC News: Hate Crime Charges Filed Against Youths
Long Beach hate crime trial moves to Compton - Los Angeles Times
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2006Nov23/0,4675,BRFHalloweenBeating,00.html

I repeat. Yawn.

Very interesting numbers I found.
Bureau of Justice Statistics Homicide trends in the U.S.: Trends by race

From 1976 to 2004 --

* 86% of white victims were killed by whites
* 94% of black victims were killed by blacks

To view data, click on the chart.


Offenders-Hate Crime Statistics

By Race

An analysis of available race data for the 6,804 known hate crime offenders revealed that:


* 60.5 percent were white.
* 19.9 percent were black.
* 12.3 percent were unknown.
* 5.2 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (multiple races, group).

* 1.1 percent of known offenders were American Indian/Alaskan Native.
* 0.9 percent were Asian/Pacific Islander.
(Based on Table 9.)
 
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lol, well I guess that just hammers home that I've never been there! I just always assumed that was a you people type of thing

Oh hell no. No you didn't. Let me explain to you my pigment deficient friend. Sports involving animals fighting was started by you guys. With the romans and all that. Any history book with tell you that. We just implemented on it.

I take it to the next step, I'm training my dog to rip out his Achilles tendon!

Yup. He's that brother we all love to hate.

As long as we keep the right to frame you whenever we see fit, I'm down. Gotta keep an eye out for whitey's interests! :cool:

Fine. But you also keep serial murderers and psychopathic suburban mothers. That way black people can at least say that our crimes make sense. Aint got money? Rob somebody with money. Aint got a car? Rob somebody with a car.
 
Fine. But you also keep serial murderers and psychopathic suburban mothers. That way black people can at least say that our crimes make sense. Aint got money? Rob somebody with money. Aint got a car? Rob somebody with a car.

Agreed.
Historically, black crimes seem more... understandable.
And definitely less scary.
The motives are usually comprehensible and human (although not forgivable; killing somebody for money or status? F' you. Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200).
But, I mean, at least there is generally some motive- greed, whatever- that we can put our finger on; not just, "I had to kill her because I wanted to remove her skin, put it on, and dance around the house wearing it."
I guess these guys would rather get captured, chained in a basement for two weeks, raped, tortured, and ultimately cannibalized and buried in the backyard of some white psychopath dressed in a clown suit than get shot and killed instantly in a drive-by or a convenience store robbery by some crack-head gang member.
Whatever.
 
Agreed.
Historically, black crimes seem more... understandable.
And definitely less scary.
The motives are usually comprehensible and human (although not forgivable; killing somebody for money or status? F' you. Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200).
But, I mean, at least there is generally some motive- greed, whatever- that we can put our finger on; not just, "I had to kill her because I wanted to remove her skin, put it on, and dance around the house wearing it."
I guess these guys would rather get captured, chained in a basement for two weeks, raped, tortured, and ultimately cannibalized and buried in the backyard of some white psychopath dressed in a clown suit than get shot and killed instantly in a drive-by or a convenience store robbery by some crack-head gang member.
Whatever.

LOL? More understandable?
Less Scary?

Im more scared by the higher probability of getting robbed and killed by some Shitbag crackhead in the ghetto than the very very low probability of meeting a freak killer who skins people and wears clown suits.

Besides, if Im dead im dead, what happens to my body afterwards doesn't make a damn bit of difference if I can't feel it.

The fact that it is a regular occurrence should be the scary thing. Not what they do with your skin once they've already killed you.


"Whatever"
 
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Being a little racist here yourself are we?

If I were to stereotype all blacks as a bunch of "less than educated" folks who's lives revolved around basketball I would be burned at the stake.

You... You... You RACIST!

Too bad the left can't have a reasonable discussion of a very serious issue. As usual it has turned into personal attacks, that's when I tell to kiss off.
 
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Rofl. I think Kandahar was making a joke about how Stinger sounded like a refined version of 1950s rednecks. Not so much about NASCAR fans.

No it's exactly what he meant and it is noted everyone on his side, you too, are desperately trying to ignore the subject here and the FACTS as presented. Instead thinking you can just pull out the "racist hammer" hit someone over the head with it and declare victory.

Oh well.
 
1)
ABC News: Hate Crime Charges Filed Against Youths

Long Beach hate crime trial moves to Compton - Los Angeles Times
FOXNews.com - Hate Crime Charges Filed Against Youths

2) Very interesting numbers I found.

From 1976 to 2004 --

* 86% of white victims were killed by whites
* 94% of black victims were killed by blacks

3) By Race

An analysis of available race data for the 6,804 known hate crime offenders revealed that:


* 60.5 percent were white.
* 19.9 percent were black.
* 12.3 percent were unknown.
* 5.2 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (multiple races, group).

I love Lexis Nexis.

1) And this crime got buried by all but the local papers. A couple of outside papers mentioned it exactly once, and on the back pages. And there were 3 whole mentions of it on broadcasts.

This is more of an example for MY argument than yours. The media have demonstrated repeatedly that if this had been whites on blacks or gays, this would've received relentless, around the clock, front-page coverage until the victims became household names with their own federal holidays.

Obviously my contention wasn't that literally zero media sources mention black on white crimes, otherwise I would'nt have ever learned of all these cases the media buried in the first place.

This is an example of the media ignoring a black on white crime, not reporting on it equally.

2) And? All this proves is that race-based hate crimes are rare.

3) And we've already discussed the double standard whereby whites attacking blacks is nearly always presumed to be racially motivated (as with the Duke Lacrosse case) while blacks attacking whites are excessively dissmissed as NOT racially motivated (the amityville attack-no hate crime charges, Malvo sniper case-no hate crime charges, the Wichita massacre-no hate crime charges, the SUV driver deliberately mowing down college kids on campus-no hate crime charges, etc.).

There's an eagerness to portray white crimes that involve blacks as bigotry, and a hesitance to do the same about the crimes of blacks and Muslims.

That bias skews results like this.

And I'm hoping you're not trying to use this to suggest that whites are more violent or hateful, because your own source clarifies that blacks commit 6-7 TIMES as many murders as whites.
 
When I hear on my television set, "Two killed on the corner of <fill name in here>, news at 10:00," in my minds eye, it's always the black people they are talking about. I just presume it's black people even before I hear the news story. I feel bad about that too. That makes me feel kinda racist. But, when the news cast reports the story....I was right. As usual. More murder down on MLK.:roll:

I would say that, in my town, 9 out of 10 reports we get on our television set about local violent, senseless, hateful, often deadly crimes, involves our African American Community. And yet, they make up the minority of our populus as a whole.

However, keep in mind, my town also is famous for Jeffery Dahmer too. He was as white as rice. "Milwaukee, where the weak are killed and eaten."
 
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Too bad the left can't have a reasonable discussion of a very serious issue. As usual it has turned into personal attacks, that's when I tell to kiss off.

See, the thing is, this isn't a "very serious issue." It's a completely petty issue.

So the media supposedly overreports white-on-black violence. The media also overreports on terrorism, school shootings, kidnappings, child predators, Anna Nicole Smith, and various other horrendous things. Yet I don't see you bitching about the amount of time they spend covering any of those things.
 
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