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    Re: Are you willing to lie to push your agenda?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    inspectors had unfettered access in all of Iraq
    False. The final (and every other) report from the inspectors clearly states otherwise. Further, Saddam claimed he perpetuated the belief that he had a WMD program, by running inspectors around and denying access, because he feared Iran more than the UN.

    Learn history. Or... give us more of that Unabomber Manifesto crap.
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    Re: Are you willing to lie to push your agenda?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    False. The final report from the inspectors clearly states otherwise. Further, Saddam claimed that he perpetuated the belief that he had a WMD program, by running inspectors around and denying access, because he feared Iran more than the UN.

    Learn history.
    One thing to note is that Vice President dick in the asshole profited quite a bit from that war.
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    Re: Are you willing to lie to push your agenda?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So, you know the question....Are you willing to lie to push your agenda? Will you answer truthfully? I know thats an ironic thing to ask for this particular poll but I'm hoping that since the poll won't be public and not aimed at any particular agenda people will actually be emboldened enough to do so.

    Note: This is one of the VERY FEW polls that I will EVER make that is not public.
    I have opinions but the only agenda that I have is to care for myself and my family. Generally I would say that my family is best served if I remain honest.
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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    Re: Are you willing to lie to push your agenda?

    Would I lie to push my political agenda? NO! This is one of the many reasons Im not a leftist. Its called integrity and honor, and I have both.

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    Re: Are you willing to lie to push your agenda?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    Would I lie to push my political agenda? NO! This is one of the many reasons Im not a leftist. Its called integrity and honor, and I have both.
    Indeed. I may not talk about certain aspects, but I'm not going to lie.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Are you willing to lie to push your agenda?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    One thing to note is that Vice President dick in the asshole profited quite a bit from that war.
    Is that Tourette syndrome?

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    Re: Are you willing to lie to push your agenda?

    I don't have an agenda. Truth is tempered by years of experiences in many realms of learning, but more importantly through a concerted effort in letting go and shedding of what does not serve. The ultimate truth resides in our spiritual nature - not in mind or emotional arguments - and there is only one truth. The better one's relationship is with that, the less one has to lie, and the more that they just naturally connect with others without pretense.

    In short, if you're right with yourself then there's no real need to lie about anything. Lies come from resistance to truth and trying to force something to fit where it doesn't, instead of simply accepting what is. People who are lie are stuck, and are trying to get fed from the wrong source. They've either forgotten or never learned where the real source is.

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    Re: Are you willing to lie to push your agenda?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Really, you want me to go over the 2008 election again?

    Let's start with Ayers and Rev Wright. I am sure you know more.
    What lies would that be?? Please enlighten me.

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    Re: Are you willing to lie to push your agenda?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    False. The final (and every other) report from the inspectors clearly states otherwise. Further, Saddam claimed he perpetuated the belief that he had a WMD program, by running inspectors around and denying access, because he feared Iran more than the UN.

    Learn history. Or... give us more of that Unabomber Manifesto crap.
    Leading To War :: a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

    In a commentary in the Chicago Tribune (published on September 10, 2002), former chief United Nations Special Commission in Iraq [UNSCOM] weapons inspector Scott Ritter challenges Vice President Cheney’s August 26, 2002 claim that Saddam Hussein has resumed efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. Ritter points out that Cheney omitted a key part of Saddam’s son-in-law, Hussein Kamal’s story
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    “Throughout his interview with UNSCOM, a U.N. special commission, Hussein Kamal reiterated his main point—that nothing was left. ‘All chemical weapons were destroyed,’ he said. ‘I ordered destruction of all chemical weapons. All weapons—biological, chemical, missile, nuclear—were destroyed. There is not a single missile left.’”






    September 1, 2002
    Scott Ritter, former Chief U.N. Weapons Inspector from 1991–1998, writes in the Baltimore Sun [link to source]

    “From 1991 to 1998, U.N. weapons inspectors, among whom I played an integral part, were able to verifiably ascertain a 90 percent to 95 percent level of disarmament inside Iraq. This included all of the production facilities involved with WMD, together with their associated production equipment and the great majority of what was produced by these facilities.”



    Of the rest, Ritter told the U.K. Guardian three weeks later on September 19, 2002 [link to source]

    “Iraq has destroyed 90 to 95% of its weapons of mass destruction... We have to remember that this missing 5 to 10% doesn't necessarily constitute a threat. It doesn't even constitute a weapons programme.

    “We destroyed all the factories, all of the means of production. We couldn't account for some of the weaponry, but chemical weapons have a shelf-life of five years. Biological weapons have a shelf-life of three. To have weapons today, they would have had to rebuild the factories and start producing these weapons since December 1998.”

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    Re: Are you willing to lie to push your agenda?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Is that Tourette syndrome?
    It's you refusing to reply to the point I made.
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