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Thread: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    I agree with your post and will continue to do my part in the primaries.
    I'm assuming that anyone who spends their leisure time on sites like this probably votes regularly.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I'd vote for Bush. If Cruz, Paul, Perry, Carson, etc were the GOP nominee I'd vote for Clinton.
    Why? What is it about Jeb Bush that would be better than Clinton? And how would the others you mentioned be worse than Clinton?

    What about Pence?

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    Why? What is it about Jeb Bush that would be better than Clinton? And how would the others you mentioned be worse than Clinton?

    What about Pence?
    I think he would have a firmer commitment to a strong and involved US foreign policy, a firmer commitment to completing languishing free trade agreements, a firmer commitment to avoid tax hikes, and a general outlook on financial regulations such as editing the worst elements of Dodd-Frank. I also think he would prudently defer to the Federal Reserve for most monetary decisions (I don't want an activist President on this), he has an admirable ideological flexibility when it comes to issues like education which I suspect extends to other issues.

    I think Cruz, Perry, and Carson are not qualified for the Presidency. I would not trust them in that office. I find Rand Paul's foreign policy positions frighteningly suspect in the best of circumstances and could not in good conscience vote for him. I think Pence is behind the times when it comes to where the bulk of the American people are on social issues and immigration but other than that I have no firm opinion.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Personally, folks, I believe the Clinton and Bush families should just go home (enjoy life, money, good times and friends/family) - wherever that may be and stay there.

    Now. I'm basically anti-politician (and becoming more so, seemingly as each day passes). What being anti-politician means to me is walking the walk (instead of just talking the talk). If I'm anti-politics, then why am I here? I personally believe that I can lead by example and stop behaving like a politician on these forums - and do what I think the Bush and Clinton families (and their supporters) should do (have fun and savor every moment - live and let live).

    I'm fed up with politics and am going to try to make this my last post in this forum - I resign from any further debates.

    I'm now moving on with my life. Well, goodbye now.


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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    I voted against McCain in those primaries - voted for him in the general election, so my conscience is clean there.

    One of the hardest decisions I ever made - to not vote for Bob Barr there - but I stand by my vote.
    I didn't vote for McCain during the Republican primary but did vote for him during the general election.

    The last two Republican candidates running for the Republican nomination for President that I voted for and actually won the Republican nomination was in 1980 and 1984. That was Reagan.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    So the your only objection is their last names?? That's a pretty narrow-minded and, dare I say it, ignorant approach. We should be evaluating our leaders based on their capabilities, not their families.
    Well, no. Jeb Bush supported the Iraq war, the Patriot Act, his immigration position is very questionable, he supports Wall Street rather than Main Street, he was sitting on Lehman's board when the economy crashed, and is currently on a board, he supports federalized education. In a campaign things like his wife's attempted hiding $20,000 worth of goods from customs on a return trip to Paris would come up, his daughters drug related arrests would come up. In a Bush/Clinton campaign it'd be 1992 and back to the future. The Bush and Clinton family's actually like each other, Barbara has stated that she "loves Bill Clinton" and that Bill Clinton "thinks of 41 as a father figure". It would be a bloody contest. Furthermore, even Barbara acknowledges what most Americans know, NO MORE BUSH's. And in a poll, 50% of registered voters said they would not vote for Jeb, and that included 18% of republicans.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    My husband and I share similar views, but we are in no way comparable. Perhaps some actual Clinton experience, namely having Bill to bounce ideas off of, may not be too bad and goes to Hillary's credit more so than he lame show as Sec of State.
    As for Jeb, again, my siblings and I have much in common, but we hardly can be compared when making decisions. Here again, some experience from someone who is easily accessible may be beneficial.
    A side by side comparison, Jeb gets my vote for actually having leadership experience. What does Hillary have to offer?
    I do agree with many here who are wondering why we don't have other and more capable potential leaders. Time will tell, I am not worried yet and it won't change anything if I did.
    Its time for everyone to look more closely at 3rd party options.



    I'm totally down with the bolded.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    I would vote for Gary Johnson.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    Whom will you vote for, if you vote at all?

    I won't be voting, if it happens that way. Queen Hillary the 2nd vs. King Jeb the 3rd? LOL - thanks, but no thanks. Think I'd rather dive into a den of cobras, then have to choose between one of those clowns.

    What's scary is that it may just happen - goes to show how dumb we are becoming, imo.

    Discuss - poll soon to follow.
    I will write in Captain Courtesy....who really should launch his campaign on this site soon...

    If it came down to Clinton vs Bush, I think Bush would win and the election would be close.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    The hardest decision for Jeb's campaign would be which slogan to go with:

    "I am not my brother"

    or

    "Hell, I can't be any worse than my brother"
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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