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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Gary Johnson - or whichever Libertarian is on the ballot
    Gary Johnson was a great Libertarian candidate...as a republican. As soon as he became a declared Libertarian and the Libertarian candidate he went all hipster whackjob. VERY disappointed.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Jeb was the last Florida Governor worth remembering in recent times, but I wouldn't give him my vote come 2016. We already rode that train.
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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Gary Johnson was a great Libertarian candidate...as a republican. As soon as he became a declared Libertarian and the Libertarian candidate he went all hipster whackjob. VERY disappointed.
    Freedom, limited government... especially on the Federal level - it should almost be an incidental level of government.

    America was set up so that the most important vote you cast was for the layers of government that were closest to you. The Governor of your state, you state assemblyman and Senator are much more important votes; the Mayor of your town, your city councilman, etc...

    On the Federal level - your Congressman is the most important office... President really should be the least concerning office an American votes for.

    Unfortunately, the leftist crazies have won the day - and transitioned us from a Federal Republic, to a democracy, to a fascist/socialist state... the FedGov is now such a mess though, and the people are so ignorant, that it is now all-but unfixable; so, from that standpoint, none of it matters anymore anyway - all is lost.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No more Bush's, no more Clinton's. We've only had 44 presidents in our history, we can do better then three Bush presidencies.
    So the your only objection is their last names?? That's a pretty narrow-minded and, dare I say it, ignorant approach. We should be evaluating our leaders based on their capabilities, not their families.
    Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    I'd probably pull the lever for the Libertarians, despite their shortcomings, to get them their 5% and end the two party system so that the 2020 election isn't the same way.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    Thanks for your candidness, Lizzie and yes, Clinton would be an improvement. Personally, I believe my dog Tuco (golden retriever) would also be an improvement over what we have now.

    As a bachelor now, I can honestly say I have left over food in my refrigerator that would make better presidents than either the above.

    Tell you what. You can have Stephen Harper. He is a "Conservative" who is pretty liberal by your standards, he is fluently bi-lingual so he can confuse people easier, the perfect middle for you guys.

    We won't require anything in return, provided you also keep Justin Beiber, hopefully behind bars.
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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    Whom will you vote for, if you vote at all?

    I won't be voting, if it happens that way. Queen Hillary the 2nd vs. King Jeb the 3rd? LOL - thanks, but no thanks. Think I'd rather dive into a den of cobras, then have to choose between one of those clowns.

    What's scary is that it may just happen - goes to show how dumb we are becoming, imo.

    Discuss - poll soon to follow.


    I would move....

    wait...

    I already did.....under Nixon.

    Things haven't gotten any better actually....
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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    I can't say I know much about Jeb Bush, other than Florida seemed to do well when he was Governor.
    Having actual executive governmental experience would be a big plus.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    Whom will you vote for, if you vote at all?

    I won't be voting, if it happens that way. Queen Hillary the 2nd vs. King Jeb the 3rd? LOL - thanks, but no thanks. Think I'd rather dive into a den of cobras, then have to choose between one of those clowns.

    What's scary is that it may just happen - goes to show how dumb we are becoming, imo.

    Discuss - poll soon to follow.
    The thing is a very minority of people choose whom the two major parties will be. Only around 15% of all registered voters vote in the primaries. That 15% is going to decide whom you and I have to choose between in November. Less than half that 15% will decide whom the Republican nominee will be while around 8% decide the Democratic nominee.

    If you do not like Bush or Clinton, then register and vote in either the Republican or Democratic primary. If you don't that 15% is going to decide whom will be running in 2016. Don't vote in the primaries, you really do not have anything to complain about as to whom ends up on the ballot for 2016.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: 2016 - if it comes down to Clinton vs. Bush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    Whom will you vote for, if you vote at all?

    I won't be voting, if it happens that way. Queen Hillary the 2nd vs. King Jeb the 3rd? LOL - thanks, but no thanks. Think I'd rather dive into a den of cobras, then have to choose between one of those clowns.

    What's scary is that it may just happen - goes to show how dumb we are becoming, imo.

    Discuss - poll soon to follow.
    If the republicans are stupid enough to prop up another RINO I am honestly thinking about voting for Clinton. Usually I just leave that part of the ballot blank and vote for the elections and ballot issues.But if the republicans think a 3rd time is a charm in propping up a RINO then I am considering doing everything on my part to make sure they loose.
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